According to the 1850 census, Philip was a farmer with real estate valued at $2500. It also appears that a lady named Susanna Bates, age 33, lived in the household. Susanna was born in Ireland. She could not read or write.
In the 1870 census the value of Philip's real estate was $12,000 and his personal estate was $1920.
Children of Philip Noel and Polly Webb are: Albert Messenger born abt. 1838 James Messenger born abt. 1840 Harriet Noel born June 11, 1842, Wisconsin; died September 03, 1893, Minneapolis, MN. William Ira Noel born September 24, 1845, Wisconsin; died October 16, 1933, Fort Atkinson, Jefferson County, WI John Noel born April 14, 1848, Wisconsin; died January 02, 1897 George Washington Noel born February 22, 1850, Wisconsin; died in 1935 in Whitewater, Walworth County, Wisconsin Louisa Noel born 1853 in Wisconsin; died 1913 Philip H. Noel born July11, 1855 in Wisconsin; died February 28, 1926
The above children born in Wisconsin were all born on the family farm in Koshkonong.
Note: Philip H. Noel took over his parents farm. He promised the farm to his nephew Ira Philip Noel (son of William Ira Noel) if he would return home to run it. By the time Ira returned, however, Phillip had already sold the farm to somebody else.
Other intresting Notes on our line of Noels: William Ira Noel (see picture)served in the Civil War and was a member of Company E, 1st Wisconsin cavalry. He served under General Sherman's "bummers". He was taken prisoner near Delton, GA. On May 09, 1864 he was taken to Andersonville prison. He spent 317 days in the prison. He entered the prison weighing 170 lbs. and came out "barely tipping the scales at 70." According to Tom Noel there is a display dedicated to William Noel in the museum in Fort Atkinson. They have some of his war memorabilia (including his saber).
Ira Phillip Noel (son of the above William Noel) served in the Spanish American War. After the war he worked for the Chicago and Northwestern railroad as a conductor. He was sent to Casper, Wyoming. My cousin Tom, passed on a couple of intresting little stories about Ira. "While sitting in a Wyoming saloon, a man on horseback rode by and shot the bartender dead." Also, "Ira worked on the train pulling the Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley show for 1 1/2 years." It was after this stint on the railroad that Ira returned to take over the farm..only to have it sold before he got there.
My gg grandfather was George Washington Noel. My cousin, Tom Noel, is decended from the above William Noel and Ira Phillip Noel. I now live in Neenah, Wisconsin while Tom still lives in Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin. He had told me that the family farm is no longer standing but there are still pieces of the foundation on the grounds.
I do know there were other Noels that settled on the opposite side of the state of Wisconsin. This would have been the Solomon Noel family. Solomon (son of Peter Noel, grandson of Johannes) appears in the 1850 Census of Lima Township, Grant County, Wisconsin. He was born 1797 in Hampshire County, Virginia.
Some other Noel artifacts that my parents inherited were some pieces of artwork done by an "M. Noel" They depicted Colonial times...the men were wearing the powder white wigs. One I remember showed a formal occasion with women dress in beautiful hooped skirts. Who ever this M. Noel was , they were very talented. Wish I knew who this person was. These were retrieved from, I believe, Philip Noel's (born 1817) things.
The following information is on William Noel:
The Official Record: Entered service January 2, 1864. Enlisted into Company E First Wisconsin Veteran Cavalry from Koshkonong, Wisconsin. Taken Prisoner at Varnell's Station, Georgia; Mustered out of service June 3, 1865.
There is also info on the Certificate about the regiment's history. It is the same article that is written up on this web site: http://badger.state.wi.us/agencies/dva/museum/cwregts/reglist.html It gives brief Regimental Histories of the various Wisconsin units. I also saw two other Noels, one from Lincoln, WI and the other I believe was from Marathon, WI. Didn't recognize the names and didn't have anything to write with. The next time I go down there I will be more prepared and jot that info down.
The two Philip Noel's and Polly Webbs are
different
people, believe it or
not. My parents had Philip Noel's
(born
1817) obituary plus the have his
hand painted birth certificate from Adams
Co.,
PA. Polly Webb was married
once before to a Mr. Messenger and had two
boys
by him..they are listed in
the Jefferson Co., WI census as being born
in
Illinois. Polly then married
Philip. My folks also have Philip's
will
(he died in 1893). My Philip and
Polly's children's name are completely
different
from the ones of your Philip
and Polly.
Philip Noel and Polly Laurinda Webbs
Children:
Albert Messenger born abt. 1838
James Messenger born abt. 1840
Harriet Noel born 1842
William Ira Noel born 1845 (prisoner at
Andersonville,
GA and survived)
John Noel born 1848
George Washington Noel born 1850 (my gg
grandfather)
Louisa Noel born 1853
Philip H. Noel born 1855
Deb Konietzki