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These Pages are a collection of e-mail letters on the various Noel lines. There is a wealth of information here, so use your <EDIT - FIND> Buttons on your Browser. Remember that surnames will have different spellings. If you would like your line on these pages, send to: DN Remember that <Ctrl Home> in your Browser will return to the top of the page. 25 Mar 1998 Ed Noel <enoel@kpmg.com> My family tree traces to Pierre Noel (b1609) through Francois (his son) who came from Chirzy, Poitou. to old St. Laurent. I have copied your summary & will forward you my information later. I am scarce on time right now due to my profession (tax acct). Boston, MA 14 Jul 1998 Nathalie Ebnoether-Noël <simstat@videotron.ca> I'm very interested by the origin of the surname Noël. My husband has that name. His ancestor is François Noël who came from France to new France. 30 Jul 1998 Denise
Noel
<denise.noel@sympatico.ca> 06 Aug 1998 "E. Haeber" <ehaeber@bc.sympatico.ca> You answered my inquiry re info on Basile Noel/Marie Rose Lanteigne. I could not find a link to Basile Noel/M.Rose Lanteigne. Aldergrove, B.C., Canada 26 Mar 1999 Alphonse Noel <anoel@ns.cancom.net> My first parents in Canada, both born in France, emigrated and met in Quebec, married in 1669, and settled on the "Ile d'Orleans" near Quebec city. Their names: François Noel and Nicole LeGrand. The decendants spread mostly in the province of Quebec but quite a few emigrated to the U.S., mainly to the northern eastern States. These are the ones that I'm mostly interested in locating. 27 Mar 1999 charles-yvon boisvert <charles-@interlinx.qc.ca> I'm Marie-Nael Lessard, but my mom and familly are noël's. I'm from quebec, and I'd like to just tell you come stuff about our noël familly, I dont know the names, cause it was so long ago, but by what i read, I'm decendant of François, or Jean noël. Jacques Cartier( Québec's discoverer) 's sister married a Noël, back in france. He made 3 trips to quebec. On his last trip. he brought along his 2 nephews, that could be françois and Jean. From this, they lived around the Gaspé region for many years and could have live near quebec city ( Iles d'orléeans) later on a Noël married a american indian woman. I couldn't tell the origin, cause we are pretty confused. It could be mic mac or ever the montagnais. My Noel branch is from St-Malo france. 8 Apr 1999 donald e. whittles DEVOTA42@aol.com I have traced my NOEL ancestors to my great grandfather ERNEST NOEL in the quebec area. His Father's name was GIDEON and his mother MATHILDA GELINAS, as i understand it , MATHILDA'S Mother was possibly a CREE INDIAN, And beyond her more indian ancestry. im trying to get more info on this but haven't had much luck so far. Could this possibly be the tie to cartier's noel's that married indian's. 7 Jul 1999 "Ellen McGRATH" <MoMs3rd-S@worldnet.att.net> I would like to share my 20plus year collection of genealogy research of my Noel ancestors with my cousins. Presently I am researching the entries of baptism, marriage and death entries of all NOELS in Quebec between the time period of 1820-1835 in the Druin microfilms of the American French Genealogy Society. Two brothers, PAUL and AUGUSTIN NOEL came from Quebec to the USA around the late 1840's. Exactly where in Quebec, it is still uncertain. Possibly the Richleau Valley area, or in the area of a St. Charles, or Notre Dame DeStanbridge. I've been unable to locate their baptismal records. The only possible clue to their prior activity before arriving to Massachusetts, is that PAUL NOEL'S wife, MARY PLANT was born in 1828 in GRANVILLE, NY which is near the Vermont border. PAUL and AUGUSTIN could have been in that area prior to arriving in Massachusetts. Most of their children's vital records say parents were born in Canada. From the marriage records of PAUL and AUGUSTIN NOEL, it is recorded that their parents (from Canada) were JOHN or PAUL NOEL and ADELINE. This is what I have: PAUL NOEL born approx 1828 Children: MARY JANE born 15-Jul-1853 Oxford, MA
ELA ROSA born 21-Jan-1869 Spencer, MA
PAUL HENRY born 27-Sep-1855 Webster,
MA AUGUSTIN NOEL born 15-Jun-1830 Children: SOPHIA born 10-Jul-1853 Oxford,
MA AUSTIN born 18-Jun-1854 Oxford, MA MARY born 1855 MA ALMIRA (MINNIE) born 19-Jul-1858
Douglas,
MA JOSEPHINE born 26-Feb-1861 Monroe, NH
JOSEPH born 25-Jul-1863 Monroe, NH PAUL HENRY born 12-Jun-1864 Monroe, NH
JULIA born 13-Sep-1867, Monroe, NH ADOLPHUS born 19-Aug-1868 Monroe, NH PHILOMENA born Jan-1872 Monroe,
NH GEORGE born May-1872 LEWIS born 30-May-1873 Monroe, NH ELLEN JANE born 1876 Monroe, NH 24 Aug 1999 Richard Weber Webrene1@aol.com John P. Noel: 1845-1923 b. Bradenville, Westmoreland Co., PA Military: Co.`C', 11TH Pa. Vol. Inf. Reg. Rank: Corporal/Sergeant Parents: Blasius Noel 1814-1878 & Mary (Brogan) Noel Married: Agnes Cecelia (RANCEL/RANSIL) Noel, Dec. 26th 1867 Latrobe, Pa. by Rev. Jerome Kearny Agnes Cecelia died 1918 "NO REMARRIAGES, NOR DIVORCE LIVED TOGETHER 51 YEARS" Children:
Anna
Noel
Jan. 23rd, 1870 (deceased by 1915) Sister: Mrs. Agnes F. Murphy Brothers: David, Placidus & Sylvester Noel Occupation(s):Hotel Clerk, Bartender, Brick Molder
(Worked ~ 6
yrs.
for Buried: Most Holy Sacrament Church Cemetery, 412 North Main St., Greensburg, Pa. NOTE: JOHN P NOEL married SARAH JANE MANSFIELD Unity twp.
11-23-1865.
There seems to be another John P Noel and Sarah Jane
Mansfield. A John
P Noel married Eliza J. JAMISON. His daughter Mary
Catherine married
David
Filmore SMITH and his second wife was Sarah Jane
Mansfield. If there is
one or two John P Noel's and May Jane Mansfield's is not
known. 24 Aug 1999 Bob Reinsel Breinsel@cox.net I searched my data base and found Agnus Reinsell/Reinsele born 1837 Daughter of Conrad Reinsel (Born 1791) and Susan Hanlin (born 1798). I believe that this is your lady. The spelling in the following is that of the census
taker. The
1850
Census of Derry Township, Westmoreland County shows Conrad
Reinsele age
55 as a shoemaker. Note the age is likely wrong. He was
probably 59.
His
wife was Susan Reinsele age 53 -- born 1797. Their
children were: Andrew Ory Andrew.Ory@usm.edu All that I know is my great grandfather's family moved to Louisiana. His name was Edmond Andrew Ory ,Sr. He raised a family in New >Orleans. He had two children named Edna and Edmond Andrew Ory,Jr. (my grandfather) Edna Ory married Denis John Bergeron. Edmond Jr married Ethel Rapp(my grandmother) and they had a son they named Edmond Andrew Ory, III (my father).My father was their only child.They moved from New Orleans to Jackson,MS in the early "40's. My father , Edmond,III married Gloria Genevive Milner in 1953. They had three children,Cynthia Ann,Lydia Kay and myself ,Andrew Morris Ory. I am the only Ory left on this end as my great-grandfather, grandfather, and my father have all passed away.I was wondering if you might have any information on any of the Ory's that moved to Louisiana it would be appreciated. Noel, Darrin <DNoel@speakmans.com.au> G'day. My name is Darrin Noel from Adelaide, South Australia, Australia. I was, out of interest, surfing the net for info on my family name and came across your site. 30 Aug 1999 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> My g-grandmother was to have been Maria Kreitzer. She gave birth to my grandfather Jacob Noel in Mt Pleasant Twp, PA in 1834. That is all that I know. However today I have found a Maria Magdalena KREITZER and John A. SHORB marriage. Both were buried at St. Anthony's Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., MD. John Shorb's father is buried at Conewago, PA. My g-grandfather, Joseph, is believed to be the grandson of Peter Noel who was sixteen when he entered the Colonies and was born in now Adams County. Joseph's father Blasius moved to Tanneytown, MD after the war and Religious freedom. Joseph moved to Westmoreland County between 1797-99 and had his first child in 1800. Maria Kreitzer was his third wife and maybe a widow. Kreitzer could have been her married name. While Maria Magdalena was another Kreitzer the point is there is a connection in time, location and religion. If you can shed any light on this let me know. 5 Sep 1999 Jim Boulden <JBoulden@compuserve.com> I have been doing Bleecker and Noel research for years, concentrating on Garrat Noel from Suffolk, England, Spain and then New York City. Currently, I am trying to find a researching to track the
family in
Cadiz, but with no takers yet. I can see from you web site
that there
is
not much more known of the family than what I have. Though
I recently
went
to the Suffolk church where Garrat's family
worshiped and where
his
siblings were baptized. 5 Sep 1999 Jeffrey Norris <norris@crosswinds.net> My ancestor is Michael NOEL, b. 1798, whom I believe to be the son of Blasius NOEL of Frederick Co., MD. I have attached a text file that shows all of his descendants as I have them. Michael married into the ARNOLD family of Frederick Co., MD, and one of the Arnolds also married a NOEL female (Anna, I think). They wound up on Wyando Co., OH, which is where my great-grandfather Clement and his father, George, were from. I have Wyandot Co. records that definitively link George to Michael and Anastasia NOEL. Clement married into the KEAR family, and there was also another KEAR married into another branch of the Arnold family. RESEARCHING: CUTHBERTSON: Scot-->PA-->OH; Descendants of Michael Noel Michael Noel (b.1798-Frederick
Co.,MD;d.11
Apr 1870-Tymochtee Twp.,WC,OH) Emily M. Noel (b.17 Jul
1826) Francis Noel (b.Abt 1838)
Lewis C. Noel (b.Abt 1847)
George Joseph Noel (b.13
Mar
1830-TT,WC,OH;d.26
Jun 1881-TT,Wyandot Co.,OH) sp: Harriet
Emma
Kear (b.7
Oct 1865-Carey,W,OH;m.16 Jan 1889;d.1959-) 6 Sep 1999 (J K Noel) jknol@webtv.net I have his lineage back to 1540 in francheval.....does anyone have information further back in this line? cornelius was son of jacob who was born abt 1599 in sedan, ardennes, france....jacob was son of pieter who was born about 1571 in Sedan, Ardennes, France....he was son of Jacque noel who was born about 1539 in Francheval... 7 Jul 1999 Rosemary West westseek@san.rr.com I have a picture of Solomon Noel, brother of Lucy Noel who married Henry Older. Solomon is young ... probably in his early 20's. Lucy was born in 1843 in Berlin Center, Mahoning County, Ohio. She was listed as 16 years of age in the 1860 Census. Solomon is listed as 9 years of age. There is also a Mary Noel, 14 years of age and Susanna, 6 years of age. Susannah married a Hoyle. I don't know what happened to Solomon. Their father is Jacob Noel and mother is Grace Leonard. Jacob Noel, Jr., b. 1817 somewhere (where?) in PA, d. 14
Sept.
1879,
Berlin Center, Mahoning County, OH.
Married:
Grace
LEONARD 24 Feb. 1842 in Trumbull County,
OH. Her
parents
were Samuel LEONARD and Margaret SMITH. 11 Sep 1999 Theron M. Huntley sneakers@knownet.net Do you have anything on a Julia Griffin, born ca. 1846 in Kingsville, Ohio and died 20 Jun 1878? She married Adelbert D. Sackett. http://www.knownet.net/users/sneakers/Home.htm 13 Sep Jeffrey Norris norris@crosswinds.net There are two Michael Noels involved here. The George J. and Margaret NOEL you referenced are my g-g-grandparents. That George's parents were Michael and Anastasia. Michael was born 1798 in Frederick Co., MD, and died in Wyandot CO. 11 Apr 1870. Anastasia was born 1804 in MD, and died 1873 in Wyandot Co. but is buried in a Catholic cemetery in Seneca Co. This Michael did have a son William A., plus children Francis, Marcellus, Emily, and Matilda. Don't know about Louise, but my records show a Lewis, so that could be a garbled record. The Arnolds are obviously related, and there was also an Anna Noel who married a William Arnold and ended up in Wyandot Co. It seems you have a lot of my Michael NOEL mixed up with someone else. Most of what you have fits, but my Michael Noel's father was Blasius Noel of Frederick Co., MD, and Michael is named in that will, so I don't know who this John is that you mention, and that Michael Noel must be a different one. Michael and Anastasia lived in Tymochtee Twp. of Wyandot Co., arriving there early in 1830.It appears to me that your William A. Noel of Cass Co. is son of my Michael. There is no question that the Noels of Adams Co., PA are related, but the Michael you mention is a different Michael. Complete list of the children of Michael and
Anastasia:
Margaret,
Francis, Mary L., Marcellus, Lewis (?), Henrietta, 13 Sep 1999 Cheryl V1stchair@aol.com I've read your history page and just now reread it. So I think I understand how my Noels fit in . John Noel came from Adams Co. PA and first stopped in Stark Co. Oh in 1822, then to Seneca Co. Oh in 1830 according to the Seneca Co. History book. John was born Oct. 15,1777, married Elizabeth Beamer June 16, 1801, died Oct. 29,1863. His Children included: John, Barbara, Elizabeth, Sarah E., Michael, Andrew, Catherine, Terrisa, Lydia, Philip, Mary Magadaline, Nicholas, Peter, Susanah, and William. I think I might be related to his son Nicholas. Do you know anything about a Samuel Elsworth Noel born in 1874? He is my gggrandfather. One source says he was born in Jackson twp. Seneca Co. OH and another says Venango Co. PA. I had a great uncle by the name of Nicholas and thought it might be a family name pasted down through the generations. 14 Sep 1999 Adrian Martin Barham Money, England <adrian.money@virgin.net> I am currently putting my family history on the web. My first attempt (soon to be updated!) is at: http://members.tripod.co.uk/Adrian_Money I am interested in the family of Charlotte Christiana Noel the daughter of the Hon. Revd. Gerard Noel. She is my great great grandmother (a copy of the portrait I have of her is on the web page). I am particularly interested in her link with Admiral Sir
Charles Middleton
- Lord Barham - my namesake. I think her grandmother
was the
second
Baroness Barham (I presume the daughter of Lord
Barham). I know
her
uncle was the Ist Earl of Gainsborough and 3rd Baron
Barham. 15 Sep 1999 Jill Jessen Hernandez <kpitblu@home.com> LIVE cousins found! THANKS to ALL of YOU !!! The cousins are related to me through my 4th, Maternal G-grandmother. EMILIE NOEL Charbonneau (Amelia Cherbino) ... Christened in Varennes, Vercheres, Quebec on April 7, 1799. Parents are: Francois NOEL and Marie-Brigette LAFORME. I now have the line to Pierre NOEL and Elizabeth AUGUSTIN. I have in the past 4 days found WEB sites that have incredible information on this line back to the family origin in B.C.E. Europe ... NOT only have I found my ancestors but I have found family. I have found and speak to regularly, a cousin in VT, my 3-grandmother and his 2-grandfather are siblings. So we share BOTH sides of the tree. For the past 2 years the ONLY child of Noel and Laforme I
was
able to
find was MY grandmother? I still don't know who put
her
there!
Next quest. Now, I have the following siblings of
Emilie,
Louis,
Gabriel (who's family I have mentioned above) Jean
Batiste, Jean
Baptiste
#2, Marie Catherine, George, Marie Josette,
Francois. The list
will
probably grow! 15 Sep 1999 "temple2" <temple2@email.msn.com> Mary Ann Rule (Roper) 4-26-1782, PA - Marie (Anna) Schorb 4-26-1782 - Anna Marie Noel. My Noel connection would be in PA - my Texas connection is Jeremiah Conrad Fisher m. Mary Ann Rule, they came to Texas about 1830 - 1836. 16 Sep 1999 JMatuch537@aol.com Would anyone researching NOEL families in Louisiana check their data and see if they have a Jean NOEL (male). I am trying to locate Jean NOEL b. @ 1808 - 1810 in St. Peter's Port or any part of the Channel Islands. He is son of Jean NOEL and Elizabeth Wilkens and brother of Henry Wilkens NOEL. I do not have further information on other siblings. Am also interested in any Jean NOELs in Louisiana @1830-1850 eras. 19 Sep 1999 Webrene1@aol.com St.John's unmarked <http://members.aol.com/midmdroots/frederick/index.htm> CREITZER Margaaret (as they spelled it !) d/ 4 Mar 1879 @
47y.11m NOEL George d/ 15 Feb 1887 @ 69y O'BOLD Henrietta d/ 26 May 1882 Sep 1999 <Webrene1@aol.com> US CENSUS 1830 FREDERICK COUNTY MARYLAND: District No. 6, page 247 (index says district 7 - actual page says 6), Thomas Gurley enumerator, BLASSE NOEL 1 male 80/90, 1 female 50-60, 1 female 80-90. No one is household blind/deaf/dumb. No slaves. No free colored. Neighbors, in order of listing, GEORGE WYBLE, PAUL ECK, ELIZABETH GOUKER, BLASSE NOEL, GEORGE FISHER, HENRY ECKARD, HENRY FINFROCK. Some distance up the road (at least one full page of listing, sometimes two pages) Jacob Smith also age 70-80 and Baltzer Hesson age 80-90, and down the road at least one page Henry Fox 60-70. US CENSUS 1820, FREDERICK COUNTY MARYLAND, p. 179,
Taneytown
Election
District, No Township Listed, Sam'l L.
(Dorsey?)
enumerator,
census taken October 20, 1820: BLASSIUS NOEL 1 male
over age 45,
a female over age 45, 1 female slave age 14-26, 1 free
colored male age
45 or older, i individual engaged in agriculture: Next
door neighbor:
PETER
NOEL, 2 males under age 10, 1 male age 26-45, 2 females
under 10, 1 F
10-16,
1 female 16-26. Near neighbors Frederick Smith, Jacob
Smith, Christian
Troxall, Blassius Noel, Peter Noel, Abraham Orndorf,
(next name
not
legible) Frederick Black, JacobGouyger, Joseph Wible Sr,
Henry Finfrock
Sr, Henry Finfrock Jr. 23 Sep 1999 Sharon <CORUM@prodigy.net> I am searching for information about Joseph P Noel m. Agnes Rensell, They had a daughter named Loretta (my grandmother) who was married to Joseph McGough. Loretta was born in Greensburg, PA. Any info you might share would be truly appreciated. ------------------------- Sharon, Joseph J Noel (b. 1872) married Mary Grace Hake. He was my Uncle and we would visit him near Derry, PA. 1 Joseph J Noel 1872 - 1965 .. +Mary Grace Hake ......... 2 Torrence Noel ......... 2 Adeline Noel ......... 2 Mary Noel ............. +Branthover ......... 2 Waide A Noel 1911 - 1985 .................... 3 Waide P Noel ............................... 4 Greg Noel My Uncle Charles married Alice Ransel and there was no
Adeline
in that
family. Wed, 13 Jan 1999 Webrene1@aol.com John P. Noel married Agnes Cecelia Ransil or Rancil Dec. 26th 1867 in Latrobe Pa.by Rev. Jerome Kearny (Was this St. V.'s??)....no remarriages and no divorce. Lived together for 48 years. Children: Rose C. took care of J.P. until he died and was buried at "Most Holy Sacrament Church" 412 North Main St., Greensburg, Pa. July 13, 1923. John P. tended bar in Greensburg where he lived. Also was a hotel clerk. The info in the Stevens page that he married Sarah Jane Mansfield is obviously wrong. Note: There is an affidavit by an Alexander Moore that
was
sent in from
McGREGOR, IOWA, Dec. 9, 1891 which was interesting. Descendants of Loretta Marie Noel Generation No. 1 1. LORETTA MARIE2 NOEL (JOHN P1) was born December 04, 1877 in Greensburg, PA, and died June 23, 1959 in Johnstown,Pennsylvania. She married JOSEPH CLEMENT MCGOUGH, son of DANIEL (MCGAUGH) and ELIZABETH LEACH. He was born April 04, 1883 in St. Michaels, PA, and died March 21, 1956 in Johnstown,Pennsylvania. Notes for LORETTA MARIE NOEL: Loretta was buried in the Catholic Cemetary in Greensburg PA. on June 26, 1959. Parents were John P Noel and Agnes Rensell. More Cause of Death: Generalized arteriosclerosis. Notes for JOSEPH CLEMENT MCGOUGH: Children of LORETTA NOEL and JOSEPH MCGOUGH are: 20 Nov 1998 "R & S" <rlpslp@kiski.net> Martha Adeline Noel Pierce was bn in Pa, Feb 13 1860, mother was Martha Hoak Noel, and father Benjamin Noel. She died in Conemaugh Twp, Indiana Co Pa, May 31 1920. I have not been able to find "ANY" information as far as
relatives of
hers to date. I know there were alot of Noel's in
this
area,...Latrobe 29 Nov 1998 CMurcia7@aol.com This is all the info I have on them. I don' have any children for them, but I do have Mary and Anthony's parents...let me know if you want that Descendants of Anthony Lispenard Bleecker 1 Anthony Lispenard Bleecker b: June 13, 1741 in
New
Rochelle,
Westchester, New York d: April 26, 1816 in New York Apr 1999 "queenie" <queenie19@mindspring.com> I have been trying to find my grandfather , Herman NOEL. I have looked at several sites on the internet, but cannot seem to find him. He was married to Martha Lily and they had 14 children (I know, what were they thinking). Most or some of the children were born in Lexington, Ky. They then moved to Indiana. I am not very close to that side of my family, but would love to know know more about them. If you have any information on him I would appreciate it. 30 Apr 1997 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> Sylvester Zink m. Frederica Staud 1. Mary S Zink b. 12-21-1840 m. Jacob Noel 2. Andrew Zink b. 9-22-1842 at Mt Pleasant 3. 4. 5. 6. John Zink m. Amanda --- 1. Philip A Zink m --- 1. John C Zink 2. George P Zink 3. Joseph F Zink 4. Isabell A Zink m. --- Biskup 5. James B Zink Not sure where to put Margaret. Is she the daughter of
Sylvester and
Frederica? Their birth dates don't seem to match up. Zink Surname, 14 Jun 1997 23:48:56 -0400 ME <tiggeroo@tidalwave.net> Carl Zinke (b. Jan. 27, 1831 Kruezkirche, Posen, Posen, Preussen, Germany/d. May 15, 1906, Moltke, MI) married Alvena Hoeft (b. Sept. 20, 1857, in Germany/d. Dec. 3, 1940 in Moltke, MI). Her parents were Johann Hoeft and Caroline Schroeder. They had 12 children: Bertha, Henry, Son, Alvina, Lizzie, Albert, Margert, Charles, Alfred, Emma, Herman, Lenora. 16 Oct 1998 Kkonet2@aol.com I am descended from Joseph Noel. My line goes as follows: Joseph Noel (Abt. 1680-Abt 1753)
& Unknown
Wife My ggg grandfather was Philip Noel and he came over to
Wisconsin from
Pennsylvania and settled in the Lake Koshkonong
area. His son
William
Noel served in the Civil war and spent time in and
survived the
conditions
of Andersonville. I have quite a write-up on
William. He
was
interviewed by the Milwaukee State Journal back in the
1920's. Philip Noel born 1817 (son of John Noel and Elizabeth Beamer) 17 Oct 1998 17:30:13 EDT Kkonet2@aol.com Philip Noel was born February 1, 1817 in Adams County, Pennsylvania. He was the son of John Noel and Elizabeth Beamer. According to notes provided by my cousin, Tom Noel, Philip was baptised June 15th, 1817. His sponsers being Andrew Kendrick (McKendrick) and Elizabeth Noel. I know that my parents have Philip's handpainted birth certificate (rather large). Very neat! They also have his large "whale back" traveling trunk (includes his painted intitials). Philip came to Wisconsin from Illinois in 1839. He
bought 40 acres
in 1843 According to the 1850 census, Philip was a farmer with
real
estate valued
at In the 1870 census the value of Philip's real estate was
$12,000 and
his Children of Philip Noel and Polly Webb are: The above children born in Wisconsin were all born on the
family farm
in Note: Philip H. Noel took over his parents
farm.
He promised
the farm to his Other intresting Notes on our line of Noels: Ira Phillip Noel (son of the above William Noel) served
in the
Spanish My gg grandfather was George Washington Noel. My
cousin,
Tom Noel,
is Like I said before..I have an original copy of the
newspaper
article I do know there were other Noels that settled on the
opposite
side of
the Some other Noel artifacts that my parents inherited were
some
pieces
of William Noel Nov 1998 0 Kkonet2@aol.com The Official Record: Entered service January 2, 1864. Enlisted into Company E First Wisconsin Veteran Cavalry from Koshkonong, Wisconsin. Taken Prisoner at Varnell's Station, Georgia; Mustered out of service June 3, 1865. Engagements: There is also info on the Certificate about the
regiment's
history.
It is the I also saw two other Noels, one from Lincoln, WI and the
other
I believe
was 07 Nov 1998 "Margaret E. Noel" <menoel@pwsb.com> ARMAND NOEL, OF St. Sauveur, a Belgian who migrated to the Wisconsin Northeast. I found this in a book entitled WISCONSIN HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS (VOL.XIII) The book was at the Waukesha, WI historical museum. The librarian was kid enough to make a copy of the pages I had interest in, that being "The Belgians of Northeast Wisconsin". I find it interesting, and some day I may be able to do a match to my family, which I have not at the present time. Many thanks for your info, I will search further. 9 Dec 1998 1 Bonnie Martin" <rmartin@netins.net> To: In the 1860 Federal census is listed the two Noel brothers: Willis Bridges and Benjamin Shelton, in case you want to add this to your family data. Unfortunately there are no twps. listed in this index. I imagine it is the Noel area, however in Mc Donald Co., MO (mostly because the other names are also from that area).... #59 was Willis Bridges Noel, 42, b. KY, Eliza (Mann) age 34, KY, Clark Wallace, male, son, 16, b. KY, W.J. male, 14, b.KY, Elizabeth E. female, age 11, by. MO, Jake , male, age 7, b. MO, "Willis M. male, age 5, b. MO, and Eliza 11/12 female, born MO. #104 was Benjamin Shelton Noel, 37, born KY, with wife Nancy A. (Arens) age 34 B. KY, Two children were born in KY---Willis W. 15, and John Dudley 13.. (After John's name is 1849-1914). William U. son, born MO was 11, Clarrisa E. age 9, Casper E. age 7, George A. age 5, Eliza J. age 3, Clark W. 1, all born in MO. I have no idea who the last one was but she could have been a family member, Ann Williams, age 5, born Tenn. They had a Williams family living next door to the Noel's also. There was a murder of a young Noel girl in 1892, which is part of Judge Sturges' history that was written, and republished by his daughter Claudia after his death. Mary Lula Noel, daughter of W.H. and S.E. Noel was murdered on 10 Dec. 1892, by a visitor named William Simmons of Joplin, MO. Mary Lula was staying with her sister, Mrs. Sydney Holly, who lived on the old Mann Farm. Simmons was found guilty of the crime in 1893 , murder in the first degree. It was contested due to the fact the girl had been found drowned so was changed to second degree and Mr. Simmons was given 10 years in the state penitentiary. (Mary Lula was the grand-daughter to Shelton and Nancy Noel.) W.H. was born August 27, 1846 in Casey Co., KY and he was brought to MO that year. On August 1, 1864 he joined the the 2nd Cherokee regiment. Confederate volunteers and served until the close of the war. He married Nannie Huffman, Collins, TX on 20 Nov. 1867 and they had 10 children. He became the County Assessor in in 1892 after being the deputy sheriff for five years: 1887-1892. It is mentioned he was a Baptist and a Democrat ... In this same Sturges History was a paragraph on A.W. Noel, son of Clark Wallace and F.M. Noel, born in McDonald Co., MO is 1868, that told how he was schooled in Mc Donald Co, and then went on to Warrensburg school and a Business College in Kansas City. When he returned home, he worked for M.N. LaMance, as a bookkeeper/clerk. He was appointed by President Cleveland to be the Postmaster of Pineville. In 1897 he married Grace Younce, of Pineville, and there were no children mentioned at this time. (This history was written in 1897). One of the books has a picture of W. Bridge Noel, whom the town was named. He has a long white beard, and appears to be on a chair with straw of dryed grass under the feet of he and his wife. She is wearing a beautiful apron, with a child between them. Not a smile on their faces, of course. The story told how the town of Noel was host to the actors and workers on the JESSE JAMES movie of 1938, that was shot around SW MO starring Tyrone Power along with others. Every year Pineville, the main town of the movie, has a Jesse James Day and quite a few festivities... I just sent this to you, to add to your history if you would like it. Thank you again for mentioning me. This is a beautiful area, with very dear people. Bonnie Martin, the Family Limb Lines Lady of Goodman, MO 26 Jul 1998 Wallace Cooper <wallace@nh.ultranet.com> My great-grandfather was William S. Noel who settled in Southern Oregon. He is by our best accounts descended from Joseph Noel. You probably already have this information, but here goes anyway: Wm S. Noel had 13 children, one of whom Edna P Noel was my grandmother. The Douglas County Museum in Roseburg OR has some archives and a genealogy done by a woman who is (or was) the Harbor Master/Mistress(?) of Reedsport. The archives of the museum contain at least: 2 genealogies, some pictures of Wm S Noel, and other items I didn't have time to consult. 26 Apr 1998 SWABQ35 <SWABQ35@aol.com> I have not been back to Penna. in the last forty two years.I do however have a vague recollection of the name Dominic and Uncle Leo.You are correct my father was Waide A. Noel. Grandfather was Joe Noel he lived in Bradenville Pa. and worked for the Rolling Rock Company in Latrobe. Grandmother was Mary Hake. 18 Mar 1998 timnoel@juno.com (TIMOTHY A NOEL) I called St V's and received this information. The records are poor for the era you requested. These are all the Noels they have in there records. I went there and only found the grave of Sylvester Noel. The stone was worn and hard to read. Could only make out his name and the date. I am planing to go back on a nice day and talk to the attendants for the location of the other graves. Tim Noel Name Date Emmanuel
Noel
05/02/1906
25 Jan 1997 Dominic Noel <noel@mcn.org> Since my last e-mail I haved looked at some micro-film from the Latter Day Saints, Salt Lake City entiled Noel family records 1700's - 1900's). The reference # is L-98222 0415230. This can be obtained thru there genealogical section at their local church. You don't have to be a member. The following is the first few pages that I copied: September 1736 Joseph Noel and family and Ennos Noel and
family arrived
at Philadelphia. They came by best authorty from the
Palatine,
Germany
close to the border of France. The name is French
and it would be
useless at this time to speculate wheter they were of
French or German
blood. They never rose to any conspicuous position
but were of an
industrious and Among 330 people from the Palatinate and other places, imported on Ship Princess Augusta from Rotterdam via Cowes were Enos Noel (aged 36), his wife and a child; Joseph Noel (aged 56), his wife, a son Peirre (aged 16) and five other children. Several early familes of Paradise - Conewago section of York County made the same voyage. They qualified (took an oath of allegiance to George II and abjoured the Jacobite pretension to the Crown) at the Court House in Philadelphia Sept 17th 1736. This from their entry into this country at an early date
Joseph Noel
Ist was born, according to best authority, in 1680 in a
province near
the
border of France. Although the name Noel has a
French origin, the
bibles of the older generation were in German. No
records of his
ancestors is obtainable at this time. He and his
family arrived
in
Philadelpia Sept 16 1736. 18 Feb 1997 Dominic Noel <noel@mcn.org> Father Peter Helbrons Greensburg Register DANIEL NOEL, s/o Abraham & Mary 12-3-1816 SP- Peter
Noel
& Margaret JOHN NOEL s/o Joseph & Margaret Noel
11-26-1811 (Edward
& Mary Toner) JOSEPH NOEL s/o Joseph & Margaret Noel
8-3-1806
(Joseph Schmidt & 19 Feb 1997 (MR THEODORE(TED) E VON MECHOW) ancestorkid@comcast.net I have been looking for positive proof of my James Noel d. 1842 and Mary Noel d.1841 They were living on a piece of the land origanally part of the Noel grant in the Pigion Hills Jackson (Pardise twp.) York Co. Benajamine Strasbaugh married thier daughter Mary Margaret April 25 1838 they had many minor children that Benajamine and Mary were guardians of until they reached 21. I never forund James and Mary's marriage or birth records. My genealogy line is validated through census and tax records for the land but that is not real proof. ---Catherine Strasbaugh married Anthony Kline then a ? Little -------Catharine Kline b. 4-13-1796 -------Marie Kline b.12/6/1797 -------John Kline b. 3/16/1800 -------Elizebeth Kline ?11/29/1803 -------then Little -------Michael Little ?1/14/1802 -------Susan Little 7/29/1806 -------Magdalena Little 9/24/1808 married Thomas Brady -------Anna Little 2/16/1811 -------Joseph Little 6/13/1813 those with a ? may have been because the ?Little was a widower with a child and the child was baptised into Catharine Strasbaugh's church around the time of the marriage. The Strasbaugh's / Noel's / Kline's / Little's inter married a lot my line is Noel and Strasbaugh and the above came from a misc. file on both families. included above just in case you find a link. there are opther Kline and Little references in my file but no Barbara in the time requested. Sophia Good and Peter Noel Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 09:06:14 -0600 From: "Robert J. Stevens" <snevets@execpc.com> Organization: Obventure Software, Inc. To: Dominic <noel@mcn.org> References: 1 , 2 Dominic wrote: Search Words: NOEL CD 136, 1st Edition PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1736 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1738 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1739 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1741 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1743 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1752 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1753 PA PRE-1790, PHILADELPHIA CO., PA 1773 VA PRE-1790, HAMPSHIRE DIST., VA 1782 Search Words: NOEL CD 137, 1st Edition 24 Dec 1998 "Robert J. Stevens" <snevets@execpc.com> From Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Wills, 1682 - 1834 from Family Line Publications, I found this: Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834, York Co. October 27, 1765 June 10,
1766 Sep 1999 Andreas.Noel@andreasnoel.de My name is Andreas Noel and I really enjoyed reading the noels history page. Especially I was interested in the part of the Noels
moving to
Eastern
Europe. My fahter was born in Banat, his name was Michael
Noel. He died
1968 in Munich, Germany where I live since I was born in
1965. My
Grandmother
moved 1960 to Cleveland, Ohio together with her second son
Hans. She
died
last year in the age of 100. Still there are a lot of my
families
members
living in both Germany and the USA. 18 Mar 1998 BLNA <BLNA@aol.com> John Riser Noll was born in 1852 in Hummelstown, Dauphin Co,PA His father was John Noll and mother ____Riser. John Riser Noll married Elizabeth Shuh Page born in 1853 in Dauphin Co PA Her father was Samuel Page born 1822 Paxton, Dauphin Co, PA Mother Maria Shuh born 1821.PA TheyNoll and Page families were part of the 300 1879 ers who took the train ride to Abilene, Kansas and settled there. BLNA@AOL.com I am Betty Lou Noll born in Oklahoma City in 1926
My
father was
John Marion Noll and motherLeora Bumgardner. 3 Nov 1998 BLNA@aol.com What I really know is that John Riser Noll was born in 1852 to John Noll and __Riser.in Hummelstown, Dauphin Co, PA His wife was Elizabeth Shuh Page. Her father was Samuel Page 1822 Rutherford Dauphin Co PA. I know that John Page Noll, my grandfather was born to them in Hummelstown, Dauphin Co, PA In 1879 they were part of the River Brethren who left Lancaster Pa on a train with 300 others to find land in Abilene, Dickinson Co,Kansas. I have been to Pa for 3 days researching in Harrisburg and in Lancaster PA. I found more on the Pages . I think John Riser Noll was on a census in Mt Joy, Lancaster Co.PA Believe it or not there is a Betty Noll Wood who is related to me Betty Lou Noll in California. They are expecting me to research the family. they had submitted John Riser Noll information to LDS. I wish we could help each other... 04 Nov 1998 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> Hi, I have not followed the Noll surname. I did get a letter from someone but I can not find it, I have hundreds. If I do I will put you in contact. Below is some names that I have picked up. ------1736 Noll Ship Harle, of London, Ralph
Harle, Master,
from Rotterdam, but last from Cowes,
(Palatines to PA) ------1755 Noll ------------------- BERKS COUNTY, PA Noll,
Balser
Tulpehocken
Twp
BUCKS COUNTY, PA Noll,Jacob,
Valentine
1790
Noll, John Roscomb manor
Twp 6 Nov 1998 BLNA@aol.com I am the last of my grandfather's who died when I was three and living in Braman Okla with my grandparents. I thought maybe John Noll in the census for PA 1860 Lancaster Co, Mount Joy, PA might be mine??? John Noll was 8 yrs which checks out. His father was John Noll 50, mother Nancy, sisters Barbara 10, Elizabeth 6, and Annie 3. Betty 06 Nov 1998 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> "Philip Noll and his sons John Yost and George Noll, who later acquired land in the area were not of Joseph Noel's family. Philip immigrated in 1751. When they arrived in the area is unknown. They appear to have been Protestants." I have found that the Noll's seem to have come from around Bravaria,Germany near the Rhine River. This was from a draft of a book by Jim Osborn. He was talking about Adams County, PA, Adams was part of York County which was part of Lancaster County.You can find it at: http://www.elink.net/bobbi/ At the bottom of the page is a link. Strausbaugh Book by Don Osborn now available! Stras.Zip
This
is a zipped
file, with three chapters, plus early map of York County
neighborhood
showing
the Strausbaughs and others. 6 Nov 1998 dwolffden@juno.com (David C Wolff) I have a PA(I)GE family in Centre Co. PA in at least 1885. They were my g grandparents. Anna Elizabeth PA(I)GE was born in abt 1864, I believe in PA. She married Wyrman Thomas NOLL, abt 1889. I also believe her mother's name to be Anna Elizabeth, but my dad only knew her as Granny PA(I)GE. If anyone traces Eneas NOEL + Joseph NOEL down as far as Centre Co., please let me know. Again, I'm sorry. If can help with the sketchy info I have given, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. David 10 Nov 1998 BLNA@aol.com All I have I would be glad to share.. My family is John Noll son John Riser Noll born 1852 in Hummelstown, Dauphin Co, PA His mother was a Riser, obviously. John Riser Noll and his wife Elizabeth Shuh Page (father Samuel Page) went with the River Brethren on a train in 1879 to Abilene Kansas. I have information regarding this line. I feel they were from Germany but have no information. I will pay someone to help me since I am a long way from PA. I did go to Hershey PA where my husband played golf while I researched in Harrisburg and also in Lancaster, PA Have you heard of Rutherford, PA I have been told to look there. All I found was the Fire Dept and they were not on duty. HELP Betty 04 Jan 1999 Forrest Fothergill <ffothgil@ecentral.com> Just wondered if you would like some information on the
family
of Peter
Noll b. 13 Nov 1789, prob. Berks Co., PA d. 2 Nov 1869,
Union Co., PA
and
his wife Christina Geyer b. 13 May 1790 d. 6 Jun 1840,
Union Co.,
PA.
I have nothing to verify his ancestry but rather think him
to be the
son
of John Noll b. Phila. d. Berks Co. who could possibly be
the son of
Ennos
Noel b. 1700 Palatine and em. on the Princes Augusta from
Rotterdam.
But like I said that is only a theory. I have some
of this family
through Peter's grandchildren. Let me know if your
interested. 19 Apr 1999 Dwolffdn@aol.com 1. William NOLL + Catherine EDELMAN 2. Barbara NOLL 1794- 2. Samuel NOLL 1806- + Rebecca LIBBENS 3. John S. NOLL 1826-1887 + Christina KNECHT 1824-1906 4. William L. NOLL 1848- + Mary Ann HARKINS 4. Anthony George NOLL 1850-1928 + Matilda Sarah SWANGER 1842-1909 4. George Henry NOLL 1852-1894 4. Wyrman Thomas 'Pap' NOLL 1865-1950 + Anna Elizabeth PAIGE 1864-1941 This is just about all the info I have. Any
help
would be
greatly appreciated. David 27 Sep 1999 Jill Jessen Hernandez <kpitblu@home.com> I have just found three LIVING cousins ... descendants of Francois NOEL and M-Brigette LaForme .. My GGGG-Gmother Emelie/Amelia NOEL Charbonneau and theirs was her brother Gabriel. If you are connected to the Noel - LaForme union contact me. 16 Aug 1997 <a-s-tatara@worldnet.att.net> Adam Peter Noel, born June 10, 1800 in Westmoreland County, Penn. married Susannah Lindsay May 18, 1834. In 1835 he moved with his wife, her family and his brothers, Joseph, John, and Peter to Stephenson, Illinois (now Rock Island, Illinois). He helped to build Fort Armstrong. Later that year he moved across the river to Davenport, Iowa. He was a farmer and a prosperous business-man in Davenport. He had four children, Margaret, John, Joseph, and Sarah. His father was Joseph Noel, born about 1771 and his mother was Margaret Griffin. Joseph's father was Blasius Noel born about 1762, his father was Peter (or Pierre) Noel, born 1720 in France. He came to Pennsylvania in 1736 with his family. His father was Joseph Noel born in 1680 in France. I have a lot more info. 17 Aug 1997 <a-s-tatara@worldnet.att.net> Harvey V Noel is my great-uncle and godfather. I
got the
name
Blasius from Harvey's work that he donated to the
Davenport
library.
I have no documentation. He has it by process of
elimination.
He has a lot of information and I haven't sifted through
it all yet. My
line is: May 1998 Janice Devan <jandevan@cdt.infi.net> There very well could be a connection between Stald and Staud. This could be the same family. I believe my Stald family migrated from Switzerland in the 1700s into Bavaria, the Palatinate, and to America. 08 Aug 1998 <noel@mcn.org> Nicholas Noel, son of Peter Noel of Adams County and his sister Magdalina Noel Flowers both went to the Loretto area. It seens that Blasius the son of Blasius Noel of Maryland and a nephew of Nicholas Noel also went to Loretto. My grand Uncle Adam Noel living in Westmoreland County was best man at the weding of a Blasius Noel at St Vincents at Latrobe, PA. The other Blasius in PA at that time was the son of John Noel, the son of the Maryland Blasius. Now if I knew the name of the wife of Blasius of Loretto,
I
would know
which Blasius Adam stood for. I have no
documentation that my
g-grandfather
was the son of Blasius of Maryland and this fact would add
fuel to the
mess. 9 Aug 1998 "Russell J. Holmes" <rusholmes@paonline.com> A quick look at my information shows that I am the gggggrandson of Barbara Noel. daughter of Peter Noel and Margaret Unknown. Her siblings were Peter, John, Blasius, Mary, Nicholas, Jacob, Daniel, Catharine, Magdalena and Margaret according to the information that I have. Does this sound like the same family? My information also states that Blasius was born in 1744
in
Adams Co.,
PA and died 27 Aug 1832 in Frederick County, MD. He
married (1)
Mary
CATY about 1764 and (2) Mary Ann SPEASS about 1776. 10 Aug 1998 <noel@mcn.org> The date of Blasius birth does not jive with what I have, 1762. Please send any info on Blasius since I did not know he had two wives. We think that his son Joseph and my g-grandfather are one and the same but without documentation. Also Mary Caty and Mary Ann must be the same person. A daughter Catherine was born in 1794 18 Aug 1998 "Russell J. Holmes" <rusholmes@paonline.com> The information which you e-mailed to me on Aug. 15th pretty much agrees with what I have. The variations I have are as follows: 1.Joseph Noel b. c.1680; d. in Paradise Twp,
York
Co.,
PA. "Pigeon Hills" is not a town but a hilly area of
Paradise
Twp. On the Strausbaugh side, what is it that you disagree
with? I
concur with all your information except: Barbara Noel was
the dau. of
Peter
Noel, not Joseph, her grandfather. Russell J. Holmes <rusholmes@paonline.com> August 22, 1998 3:29 PM I was pleased to receive an immediate response from Bob Stevens, source ot the 36-page document, "Descendants of Joseph Noel", in which he says that he agrees with your dates that I was questioning and will amend his data to agree with your "better dates". He also asked if I had looked at his page Descendants of Joseph Noel <http://www.userworld.com/users/rjsteven/index.html> I have not but I certainly intend to. He also
suggested
that I
contact "descendants of Peter Strausbaugh and Margaret
Noel: Dominic
Noel,
Sondra Brown-Jim Brown, and Helen Ormsby". As you
know, it was
thru
Dominic that I found you. And Helen and I have been
exchanging
information
for over 1-1/2 years. 14 Dec 1998 "Russell J. Holmes" <rusholmes@paonline.com> You have not been forgotten! I spent a pleasant afternoon yesterday at the John Timon Reily Historical Soc'y Christmas party in McSherrystown, PA. It was but my 3rd visit and I used some of my non-eating time browsing thru Noel volumes by Charles A. Noel and Jean Staub. (She was also enjoying the sociability and offered to help me with the Noel line in the future.) I thought of you when I spotted a copy of an obit for
"Blosius
Noel,
father of William Noel, aged 75, was a soldier in the War
of 1812 and
45
years ago, emigrated from Maryland to this county."
There was no
newspaper source listed and the only date looked like
1867, scrawled
beside
it. 23 Jul 1997 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> The wills of John's sons are at: Registar of Wills Blasius Noel Book 6 Page 234 1878 Joachim Book 8
Page
20
1888 24 Jul 1997 <hsrudy@worldnet.att.net> I have some information on the brothers and sisters of John Noel. Just to be sure we are talking about the same guy, the John Noel to whom I am referring was born 20 May 1779 at PA; died 15 Mar 1854 at St. Clair (Bradenville), PA; married Mary Magdalene Grundy. John's brothers and sisters are as follows: Jospeh, b. c1777 at PA. John's father Blasius Noel was born 1762 at Paradise Twp, York Co, PA (married Mary Ann Speass c 1776), so I am not certain what you mean by "go to PA." Just out of curiosity, and to place you in one of the
Noel
lines, who
was your great-grandfather? Mine was David, b. 30
Dec 1851, d. 14
Aug 1925; married to Clara Cecelia Wagner.
David was the
son
of Blasius ("Blossy") and Mary Brogen. 24 Jul 1997 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> When I said 'went to PA' I meant that John who was born in Adams County went with his family to Tanneytown, MD when he was in his youth. Note that when Blasius ( where there two sons called Blasius?) was born in 1790 in Maryland, John was only 12 years old. He then went to Westmoreland County, PA maybe with Peter and his older brother Joseph. At least that is my line of reasoning at this time. I have that Caty was baptized at Conewago on 2-21-1794
the
godparents
being Joseph Chisimer and Polly Strasbach. The Strasbach
line and Adams
County People including the Noel's is followed by
THEODORE(TED) E VON
MECHOW Please note again that I have John's wife as Mary
Magdalene
Grundy Storm
with a John Noel, wife Petronilla and child Mary Jan
1804. This
may
be another John or John's Wife may have died at child
birth and he
remarried,
maybe a widow. This was And also that it is Brogan (Irish!) Charles Brogan wife Maria --- You may want to try the Derry Area Historical Society: http://www.westol.com/~cheetles/The_Derry_Area_Historical_Society/index5.html and ckeck out the Scotch Irish and the Brogan Surname. My Great-grandfather was Joseph Noel. We do not know where he came from or who his father was; but about the only one we know of who fits the picture is the Joseph, son of Blasius, son of Peter, son of the Adams County Joseph. I know this sounds far out but my line goes like this: Joseph (1777..1839) My father is buried as Leo B Noel and no one knows why;
since
we learned
latter that he was baptized as Leo Anthony. My
mother died when I
was one year old and I did not live with my father except
for short
periods
afterwards. But I did ask him once what the 'B'
stood for and I
believe
he said 'Bloss'. This could be a false memory. 24 Jul 1997 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> Here are some Storm facts for what its worth From "Catholic Trails West" the name Joachim pops up, a very uncommon name at that time. There are no Grundy's or Brogen's/Brogan's listed St Michael's Parish Loretto, PA p 635 The sale by McGuire of tracks of land to fellow pioneers in the Conewawo area, like John Storm and Jacob and Cornelius Burgoon, led to an influx of settlers in the 1790's to the place that had come to be known as McGuires Settlement. Sinking Valley near modern-day Altoona, PA p 637 The first Catholic settlers in Sinking Valley appear to have been John McGuire and Peter McMullen from the Big Pipe Creek Settlement in Western Maryland, near Taneytown, a mission stop of the Conewago priest. p 639 He (the priest Prince Galitzin) rode with a german named Feltz who had a beautiful singing voive, probably John Feltz, and one of the wagoneering Noel's from Conewago, perhaps Nicolas. p 640 John Storm from Western Maryland was one of the original 12 families (also stated as John Storm/Sturm the Storms were from Conewago or Western Maryland and Joachim Storm went to Frankstown Twp, Hutingdon County) p 641 Other native Germans at Loretto were John Feltz from Mannheim, Nicolas Noel from Lothringen . . . (In German - Eisass-Lothringen In French - Alsace-Lorraine) p 432-33 John Storm/Sturm b 21 Jan 1725 d 1 Jan 1805, 84 years p 707 About Loretto |