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These Pages are a collection of e-mail letters on the various Noel lines. There is a wealth of information here, so use your <EDIT - FIND> Buttons on your Browser. Remember that surnames will have different spellings. If you would like your line on these pages, send to: DN Remember that <Ctrl Home> in your Browser will return to the top of the page. 08 Oct 1999 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> These are from Father Peter Helbron's Greensburg Register Sportsman's Hall, Latrobe, PA Zindorff, Peter of George & Anna Mary Zindorff, b 12
Oct,
evidently
of the preceding year, bapt 24 April 1803; Sp: John Zindorff, Henry of George & Mary Zinsdorf, b 12 April, bapt 31 May 1804; Sp: Dionysius & Catharine Handel Handel, Catharine, of Dionysius & Catharine Handel, b
2
Feb, bapt
6 May 1810; Sp: Catharine Zinsdorff, maiden &
Conrad Bivers, Susan of Thomas and Elizabeth Bivers, two
years
old, b
2 Mar, bapt 29 June 1806. Sponsors John Henry &
Mary These people may have been from Goshenhoppen along with
the
Ruffners
and Griffin's. 09 Oct 1999 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> For the lady whose address I have lost. This is more likely the doctor you are looking for. From: The History of Cumberland and Adams Counties, Penna. Dr. Agideous Noel, physician is in it, a short biography of him, son of Samuel who settled in Adams Co. of French descent. Came to Adams Co. in the beginning of the 18th century. Also, Peter was married 2 times, children...Jacob,
Samuel, Peter,
Henry, Bernard, Louis, Gerome, George, Elizabeth,
and
Margaret..wife
was a Miss Dull. By Peter's 2nd marriage, with
Elizabeth,
daughter
of Nicholas, he had 1 son and several 06 Mar 1998 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> Mt Pleasant Twp., Westmoreland Co., PA TAX LISTS 1811-1815 (Published 1995) Westmoreland County Historical Society 1811 Joseph Noal 100 Acres-by improvements-2 horses
2
cows Taxed
Value- 86 18 Nov 1998 Jim Cyphert <jimcyphert@labyrinth.net> Sorry, but the pages I have do not include any birth,
baptism,
or marriage
dates. There are only two references to a female.
However, there
are many references to Ruffners. For example, when the
first land was
purchased
for a place for public worship, it states, "In the deed of
Philip
Freeman,
dated March 13th, 1789, transferring the property for the
nominal sum
of When Father Theodore Brouwers arrived "...he made his home with Christian Ruffner, and said mass and attended to the spiritual needs of the people in an apartment of his house." The subscription list for the first chapel reads: We the under
Named
Catholicks
belonging to the 15 Dec 1998 Jim Cyphert <jimcyphert@labyrinth.net> I saw in your response to Rus Holmes his reference to McSherrystown and remembered purchasing a book at a used book store many years ago titled "Bicentennial 1763-1963 McSherrystown, Pa." I bought the book because there was a John Seyfert present at the killing of Dudley Digges in 1752. Have not determined where he came from. The book has a history of the area - Indians of Conewago,
Jesuits, Penn
and Calvert, Digges Choice, Early Settlers, Towns,
Churches, etc. The
Noels
are included a number of times. One is a crude map
of Diggs
Choice
which shows a Henry Noel and a Francis Noel. Another is a
short write
up
on the Bernard I. Noel Family. 15 Mar 1999 "Jeffrey Norris" <jeffreynorris@usa.net> Do you have any information about NOELs who lived in Wyandot Co., OH? There was Michael NOEL who married Anastasia ARNOLD in Frederick Co., MD, and then went to OH. I believe he may be the grandfather of my g-grandfather, Clement NOEL. 16 Mar 1999 1 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> I did not know that Michael Noel went to Ohio. I would be very interested in his story since I believe he is the brother of my g-grandfather Joseph Noel from MD., the son of Blasius. What I have is that Michael married Anastasia Arnold (born 11-11-1804 died 4-17-1873) on 5-27-1823. Michael was the son of Blasius, who was the son of Peter from Europe, the son of Joseph from Europe. The sons of John Noel also went to Ohio before this time. Be sure to read my 'Noel History Page'. The Main Page is at: http://www.mcn.org/2/noel/de.htm The link 'My Line' shows Michael near the bottom. If you do not know if this is the same Michael, his records are at St Joseph's at Tanneytown, MD. NOTES! In the 1800 Census, looks like: NOTE: Catherine and Mary Magdalene married the Lansinger
&
O'bold
lads. James NOEL 24 July 1816 Jacob&Susanna 3 Feb.1817 Mary Hardr...?? Joseph NOEL Henrietta Aug.1824 Daughter of Michael&Ann NOEL 21 Aug. Anthony&Ann Arnoto Ruina Emily 17July 1826 Michael&Ann NOEL 13 Aug. Elias Arnoto & Benjamin Durbin My Note - Arnoto is believed to be Arnould, the priest
sometimes used
a latin version of names. Ann is believed to be Anastasia.
17 Mar 1999 "Jeffrey Norris" <jeffreynorris@usa.net> Michael and Anastasia NOEL did go to Wyandot Co., OH. They had a son, George Joseph, whose son Clement Oscar is my g-grandfather. Other members of the Arnold family also went to
Wyandot.
There
were a few NOELS in Seneca Co., which is right next
door. Most of
the other NOELS I have found in the online pedigrees went
to Scioto
Co.,
OH, which is the other end of the state. 13 Jul 1999 "L. DeBarea"
wolfone@sktc.net Peter Noel was full blood Choctaw. His wife Lorinda
was
1/2 Choctaw
and 1/2 Chickasaw. It is said that Peter was Peter and Lorinda had 4 children that we know
of:
Robert Noel born 1880, Edmund Noel born August 26, 1889, I have a letter regarding the enrollment number given to the Noel's for the Dawes Commission Roll. It says that Edmund's parents were deceased before he was put on the roll at 14 years of age - Robert was 23. Edmund's roll number is 14122 and Robert's is 14121. I was told that if a person had mixed blood (Choctaw and Chickasaw) that the individual had to pick one tribe or the other to enroll as and it was decided the children of Peter and Lorinda would enroll as Choctaw. On the Choctaw by Blood Census Card - #5579 - Edmund and Robert are listed as being 1/4 Choctaw. This is an error. Edmund and Robert should have been listed as full blood Choctaw. Ben Noel is on Census Card #5437. Mary Brown is on Census Card #7463. Both Ben and Mary are listed as being full blood Choctaws. Edmund Noel married Victoria Mathews. Their children were: Mary F. Noel, Joann Noel, Wanema Noel, Wayne Noel, Lawrence Noel, and Leo Noel. (No birthdates for these individuals) Mary F. Noel married Dallas S. Horn. Their children
were:
Vicki Horn, Monty Horn, Lawrence Horn, Gerald Horn, Brady
Horn and
Edward
Horn. (I have birthdates for these people but can't
give them out
without permission from each individual. Hope you
understand.)
Wish I had more but that's all for now. 28 Oct 1997 Mary Noel <mnoel@earthlink.net> My paternal grandfather Michael A. Noel was born in Hungary between 1896-1898. I have to find my father's birth cert. for the exact date. He married Margaret Ebner, who also was born in Hungary. I know that Margaret Ebner was from Grodd Jetsca Village in Hungary, perhaps my grandfather was also. My father's name was Frank M. Noel, he was born in Philadelphia in 1918. 12 Apr 1999 "GEORGE M MADDEN" <GMADDEN@prodigy.net> I think my gg-grandmoother was Elvira/Alvira
Griffen/Griffin b.
1801/1802 in CT who was married to Solomon Burdick, b.
1794/1795, NY,
in
1818. My g-grandmother, Samantha Burdick Logan, was living
with them
and
I assume was their daughter, when the 1850 census was
taken. She
married
my g-grandfather, Jonathan B. Logan in Henderson County,
IL in 1854.
Their
are enough commom names in the families, I'm pretty sure I
have the
right
family. Also, the states of birth shown on later censuses
where
Samantha
appears are the same as those shown for Solomon and
Elvira. There is a
discrepancy in the age of Samantha as shown on the 1850
census and
those
taken later. The 1850 census shows her as 13 whereas she
shows 1839 as
her year of birth on later censuses. The 1900 census shows
her as being
born in Feb 1839 in OH. If this is correct, she would have
been only 15
when she got married in 1854. 17 Aug 1999 1 Valerie Kennison <valken@sunet.net> I found your name in the surname index for ACGS. I am wondering if you have any information on the family of Samantha Griffin who married Joshua Stowe 31 Dec 1838 in Windsor. They had three children: Celia, Harmon and Eunitia. I have little in the way of information on the Griffins,
but
have lots
on the Stowe line. 4 Oct 1999 Irja R. Coles" <irja@brads.net> I have been looking for a Patrick Griffin and Molly McBride. Is it at all possible that it was Molly O'Brien instead of McBride? Or that your Molly should be McBride? I have both born about 1725 in Ireland and came over on a ship to USA. I have children Catherine and Patrick and John and Ann. Catherine was born about 1745. Patrick died about 1811 in Doylestown, Bucks County, PA. Catherine married Simon Ruffner in January of 1771. Please let me know if it is at all possible that they are the same person. 06 Nov 1998 A Harvey Noel who was in line with my g-grandfather Joseph did all the work. At the time, since my Jacob and his Adam were born 34 years apart, he did not think they had the same father because the mother was different. Since then he learned that they are half-brothers. He said that he did look for marriage and death records but found none. I think he may have misspelled the mothers names or did not look to far because he was just at the start of his search, new nothing except that the name of his g-g-grandfather was Joseph. My dad sent him to St Vincent's. He has done a lot of work, and this work is in the basement of the Library at Davenport, Iowa. I have seen some of it but was not interested in genealogy at the time. The Noel's in Frederick County, Va is interesting could they be of the Cornelius Noel family? Also I do have the early records of ST V's, 'Father
Hebrons
Register'.
. It covers 1799 to about 1819/28. JOHN NOEL - PETRONNILLA JOSEPH NOEL - MARGARET GRIFFIN PETER NOEL - MARGARET SIMON NOEL - MARY ANDRESSIN 12
Aug
1812 HENRY GRIEFEN/GRIFFY - MAGDALEN JOHN GRIFFEN/GRIFFY - MARY JOHN GRIFFIN - SUSAN PETER RUFFNER - ANNA GEORGE RUFFNER - ELIZABETH SIMON RUFFNER - MARY BARBARA FREDERICK SEPTER - ANNA FREDERICK SEPTER - MARY FREDERICK SCEPTRE - CATHARINE ADAM SEPTER - MARY THOMAS BIVERS - ELIZABETH FRANK DOFF/DUFF - ANNA DANIEL O'DONNEL - CECILIA JOHN SOALS - ELZABETH GEORGE WADE - ELIZABETH GEORGE WIGHT/WHITE - ELIZABETH JACOB ZIEGLER - CATHARINE GEORGE ZINDORFF - ANNA MARY Here’s what I found from Noels when I went to Winchester VA in September 1998. The courthouse has two sections; one for Frederick County - which was what it was before the name change. The other section is Winchester - after the name change. I spent time on the Noels in the old Frederick County side and not the newer Winchester side. Was looking up some marriages on another line on the Winchester side and they were more current. I try to check as many names as I can wherever I am cause you never know who you will stumble into. Then I make a note of it and file it in “my box”. Some day I may find I need this info and won’t remember where it was. Thought I would share it with you. County Births 1853 - 1912 Book 8 page 72 Female (not named) Noel born ?/?/1855 in Frederick Co,
Va. Book
8 page 18 County Deaths 1853 - 1896 None (Yes there were a lot, but no Noels. (I also check for Speaas and Tanner) Wills Again, no Noels Book 1 1820-1824 Joseph Noel to Mary Hays 11/3/1824 page 125 John Noel to Letitia Whitacre 10/10/1826 page 125 Nicholas Noel to Nancy Kearns 4/9/1830 page
126 Henry Noel to Lydia Farmer 9/13/1833 page 126 John Noel to Phoebe Whitacre 4/18/1838 page 126 Peggy Noel to Henry Young 6/5/1812 page 197 Elizabeth Noel to Nathan Kerns 1/11/1821 page 93 Elizabeth Noel to Peter Oliver 3/12/1826 page 128 Catharine Noel to Nathan Kerns 8/9/1832 page 96B Sara Jane Noel to Jeffersen Largent 12/8/1844 page 102A Mary Jane Nole to Samuel Oats 12/6/1849 page 128A/26 Martha Jane Noel to Elisha Kerns 9/21/1852 page 96D Sarah Elizabeth Noel to Vincent D McKee
7/3/1853
page 122F/10 Book 2 1853 - 1907 Margaret Noel , (daughter of John and Letitia Noel, ) Age
21
to Elias
Kerns Age 22 12/12/1856 Rachel Noel (daughter of Nicholas and Nancy Noel) Age 21 to Meredity Whitacre age 24 4/27/1857 page 38 Sara Elizabeth Noel to Vincent D McKee
7/3/1853
page 5 Marriages - Frederick County, Va Clasping Hands with Generations Past by Emma Rouse Lloyd
published 8/1932
hardcover Robert Tanner came from Alsace with the 1717 colony and settled in Madison Co, Va on 350 acres in 1728. His wife Maria and these children came with him: Christopher, Christiannia, Katherine, Mary and Parva Robert Tanner was an attorney at law in Madison Co.
Christopher
son of Robert and Maria married Elizabeth Aylor
5/12/1781 in
Madison
Co, Va. Their children were Mary (Maria) Magdalene married Christopher Zimmerman in
1768 Henry Tanner married Mary Games 12/10/1778 11 Jun 1998 <elsworth@connect-me.net> This appeared in the January 8, 1908 front page of the Latrobe Bulletin (local newspaper) WORKED 31 YEARS FOR RAILROAD, NEVER ASKED FOR A PASS Remarkable Life of James Murphy Was Brought To A Close Today James Murphy an aged resident of
Bradenville, whose
life was intimately 30 Dec gendaemon@ProgCons.COM (GenServer Daemon) NOEL, Marie Jeanne 888 POTIER,
Charles
N400
caph6ia
13 Feb 1997 Dominic Noel <noel@mcn.org> BY Harry Joseph Mayo 1923 CA.. Susie Noama
Noel
1905 CA..1983
CA This is from: 01 Mar 1997 Susan Parks <scparks@pacbell.net> Found a Thomas Noel, Caroline Co. MD Choptank Hundred Twp. can be found in Court records. 18 Mar 1997 Cobra XLT <nunleyrs@sisna.com> I am a descendent of James NOEL md Mary Ann "Polly" CLARK 02 Dec 1841. They had several children but I am descended from their daughter, Susan Lucy NOEL (md John D. TAYLOR). Susan had a brother named Thomas Jefferson NOEL who resided in Pennsylvania in the early 1900's. Do any of these names show up in your family tree? 21 Mar 1997 Helen Ormsby <heleno@Alaska.NET> The following are all the people named NOEL who are listed in the index of the 1860 census of Adams County, Pennsylvania. The number after each name denotes where they are located in the census. For example, in Franklin Township, John Noel and Martha Noel both have the number 070. This means they are both in the same household. In Mount Pleasant Township, Francis Noel has number 497 and Jacob Noel has 498. This probably means that they have adjoining property. Butler Township: Franklin Township: Gettysburg: Menallen Township: Mount Pleasant Township: Oxford Township: Reading Township: Straban Township: 22 Mar 1997 1 "Florence M. Jensen" <fjensen@hq.tcfarm.com> William Bazel Noel b. 1762 in England. Resident of Maryland where he owned ships, but lost them in storm, and Kentucky. First wife died, then married 8 Oct. or Dec., 1794 in Shelby Co, KY. Mary Gregg b. Dublin, Ireland. She d. about 1848. Seeking parents of both and any further information. Have lineage of their daughter, Mary Noel Kitchen Haftield, to myself. 9 Apr 1997 2 Dorcutt931@aol.com I believe that my Noel's settled in VA., yes you have early Noel Lineage correct. The following is my line as I know it, I will go just up to Vawter's marriage because I am sure you aren't interested in my line later on. I have also been told that their is a Noel Book in the library, and I have a e-mail correspondent that has seen this book. It just may help in your PA connection. I have received two versions of Noel lineage, and I have found out that as in any "early" lineage books there are alot of misinformation. The first Noel Lineage goes like this: 1. Passchier Nowe, b. d. m. Stijntje Jaspers, March 19, 1583 children: Jacob Susanna Boudewijn 2. Jacob Nowe, b. Abt. `1599 Leiden, SH Netherlands
3. Cornelis Noel, b. Nov. 8, 1623 Leiden SH Netherlands 5.Margaret Noel, b. abt 1714 in Essex VA The second lineage information is a little different
until
Cornelius
then 2. Pieter Noel, b. Ardennes France 3. Jacob Noel, b. abt 1599 Sedan, Ardennes, France
4. Cornelius Noel, b. Nov. 8, 1623, Leiden SH
Netherlands 5. Daniel Noel, b. 6.Margaret Noel, born abt. 1714 in Essex Co., Va You will see that everything in both lineages match up on
#3. 12 Apr 1997 Sandra J Hood <sjhood@wimmera.net.au> Searching for information regarding Noel/Noall family from Cornwall England. William and Samuel came to Australia approx 1850-1860. Parents were Alexander Noall and Jane Berriman. Do you have any relevant info or contacts of others who may be conducting a similiar search? 01 May 1997 "Kenneth R. Noel" <kennoel@erols.com> Anything in your lines noting Anthony J. Noel c1820 or so in West Irvona, Clearfield or Westmoreland Co., PA? 14 May 97 "Russ Jurgensen" <RVJ1207@msn.com> email address momisb@aol.com is looking for connections of William Tinsley Noel who's parents were James and Elizabeth Tinsley Noel. Any help? I have nothing. Georgene Jurgensen 18 May 1997 Dominic <noel@mcn.org> Ken I found the referance to Anthony Noel you may want to contact Susan below. If you tie into any of the Noel's listed below, I would like to hear from you. Dominic From: SusanNoel@aol.com Do not recognize any of those Noel names. My husband's ancestors seem to be from Cambria/Clearfield Counties. Do Anthony or Henry Luke Noel appear in your lines anywhere? ------------------ Letter to Susan today 5-18-97 Susan, If this is new, there is a Henry Noel son of Peter and Margaret --- born 18 Dec 1810, bapt 4 Mar 1810 This family may have been from St Patricks, Newry. Ref: Catholic Trails West My dad was baptized Leo Anthony Noel (1887..1963). If this fits with your info I would like to know more. I have started a Web Page centered on Joseph Noel trying to learn who his brothers and father were. If you have anything to add let me know. http://www.mcn.org/2/noel/de.htm Probable Brothers OF Joseph Noel (17xx..1839) Peter Noel & Margaret --- John Noel & Petronilla --- Simon Noel & Mary Andressin married 12 August 1812 Abraham Noel & Mary --- Jacob Noel Alban Noel DANIEL NOEL, s/o Abraham & Mary 12-3-1816 SP- Peter
Noel
& JOHN NOEL s/o Joseph & Margaret Noel
11-26-1811 (Edward
& Mary JOSEPH NOEL s/o Joseph & Margaret Noel
8-3-1806
(Joseph 07 Jun 1997 No e-mail Per Fr. Donald Raila and Fr. Omer here at St. Vincent Archabbey in Latrobe PA, the only two baptismal entries we could locate are: [book 8, page 58] [book 8, page 58] N.B. Married Hope this helps! Pax et Bonum,
Phil
Engle 20 Jun 1997 biwer@aero.net (Biwer, Marty) Are any of these Noel's connected to a Alfred Noel from Canada. He had l2 children. 4 sons & 8 daughters. Married a Perixode Rochon or Rochow? Lived in or near Clarence Creek, Canada. Alfred Noel would be my Great-Grandfather. Grandfather was Benjamin Noel. Father was William Benjamin Noel. My father thought my Great-Great-Grandfather's name was Joseph Noel. 07 Jul 1997 Donna Stewart <donstew@memphisonline.com> I am a Noel, from Omaha, Illinois. Well, my married name is Stewart, but my given name is Noel. I was raised on a farm in Omaha, IL, and the farm has been with my family for three generations. My father's name was Leon Mitchell Noel (deceased in
1989). His
father was Leon had one brother who died shortly after birth.
There
were
no other Elbert had brothers named Harold, and Orpheus. He
had a
sister
named I don't know dates, nor much family history, though I am
very
interested
in I have a brother named Richard Leon Noel who now farms
the
family farm
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