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28 Sep 1999  Leila       < leila@rispens.tweakdsl.nl >
I am not making progress with my own family tree. The records in the Philippines are mostly destroyed during the WWII I was told by our National Bureau of Census. But a friend who is a Congresswoman confirmed that my grandfather MAXIMINO NOEL was indeed a congressman representing the 6th district of Cebu has served the Philippine Congress between 1926-1928. She found this in the old documents at the Congress' Library.


26 Jul 1997    Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
 "Catholic Trails West..Vol I is about Grossenhoppen and is of little or no value on the Noel line. Vol II is the one to get.  Also Father Peter Helbron's is good. From that, I have found this:

BROGAN, Rose, of Charles and Agnes Brogan, b 16 May, bapt
6 June 1819. Sponsors Henry and Johanna Donnelly.

BROGAN, Sarah, of Charles and Agnes, his wife, b 1 Mar, bapt
19 May 1816; sponsors James and Catharine Haney.

BRUGEN, Mary, of Charles and Agnes Brugen, b 9 Sept, bapt
6 Oct 1811; sponsors John Wagener and Barbara his wife.

Names were miss spelt often then as now.



29 Sep 1998      "ROBIN GALLO" <robin_gallo@hotmail.com>
You left a response to a query on the Westmoreland County Gen. Page.  I would like to know how your Joseph and my Jacob are related.  I recently discovered how I am relate to Jacob.  And the only reason I know Jacob's name is from an index to cemeteries that I found in the Westmoreland County Historical Society.  It stated that Jacob m. Catherine Grainer and moved to Westmoreland County @ 1823 with his 6 children.  If all of my facts are correct then Jacob is my 5x great grandfather.  My line would be:

**Jacob Noel m. Catharine Grainer
  **Charles Noel m. Martha Nesley(Nicely)
    **Elizabeth Noel m. Leonard Marks
      **Isabel Marks m. Jacob Harr
        **Myrtle Harr m. Edward Jacob Myers
          **Margaret Myers m. Harry Jennings
            **Peggy Jennings m. John Gallo
              **Robin Gallo

There is a family cemetery that I found in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, PA.  Charles is buried there along with Leonard.  It is very grown over.  Thirteen impressions mark the ground but only 6 gravestones.  The six being: Charles Noel, Leonard Marks, Catharine Noel w/o William, Shannon Noel and his wife, and another brother which I cannot remember, although I have it in my notes at home.  If any of this is remotely familiar please let me know.

Also, I have an obituary from the Ligonier Echo, dated 1892 for Elizabeth Noel, w/o Peter Noel.  It is wonderful.  It is the full length of the paper.  It gives her maiden name as Hare(another family name for me).  Is this the Peter Noel from your research.  They are both buried in Bethel Cemetery on Chestnut Ridge.  Apparently, Peter and Elizabeth donated the land for the Church and cemetery.



01 Oct 1998 1   "ROBIN GALLO" <robin_gallo@hotmail.com>
You stated that our lines started with the same patriarch, Joseph.  Do you have dates for him?  In my search I have come across Peter Noel b. 17 Mar 1818 d. 12 Feb 1901 married 1840 to Elizabeth Hare b. 18 Mar 1819 d. 1 Aug 1892.  They are both buried in Bethel Cemetery on the 'Ridge.'  Is he the Peter you speak of?  If not, is it possible that he is one of
Jacob's sons?  The info I have states that Jacob came to this area in 1823 with 6 children.  The only children I can find are Jacob Jr. and Charles.  My family is descended from Charles.  I have the following children for Charles and Martha:
++Shannon m. MaryAnn Putnam
++George
++Mary
++Jonas m. Lavinia Nicely
++ELIZABETH m. Leonard Marks
++Margaret (twin sister of Elizabeth)
++John C.
++William m. Catherine
++Sarah


17 Nov 1998     Robert Reinsel          Breinsel@cox.net
John Kuhn is my earilest known ancestorin the Colony of Pennsylvania, but I also have ties back to Eck, Schmit, Riffel, Seifert, Arentz, Aaron, Gret, Danner and more. I have put together a manuscript called a "Tree from Goshenhoppen" in which I attempt to trace the links and migration on Reinsels and  the families from the above list from Goshenhoppen to Westmoreland and Clarion Counties. I relied heavily on the Goshenhoppen Registers, Baptisims of Western Pennsylvania, and Church records from St Mary's in Lebanon and St Nickolas in Crates, along with census records.


17 Nov 1998      Robert Reinsel       Breinsel@cox.net
The tie of my family to the Goshenhoppen Registers was made because of the recording of the baptism of Margaret Arentz, born Sept. 1, 1808 and baptized Oct. 5, 1808.  Margaret was the daughter of George and Margaret Egg (Eck)Arentz.  Margaret Arentz was the wife of John H.Reinsel who moved to Crates from Lebanon County with his family about
1849-50.  Also, Mary Magdalene Seifert, (Cyphert) the wife of Daniel Aaron, was baptized by the priest at Goshenhoppen and her baptismal record appears in the Goshenhoppen Registers.
 

You might note that Crates is really a corruption of the name Gret. Philip Gret was one of the first settlers of Crates.

In their book, Aarons of Crates, Pa. 1820 to 1980, the Shannons indicate that the baptismal records of St. Mary's, in Lebanon, actually St. Mary's is The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary,  date from 1795. These records show the Baptism of John Reinsel, born June 24, 1797, the son of Henry and Elizabeth Reinsel, on August 26, 1798 and the Baptism of
Anthony son of Henry in 1802. John Reinsel's sponsors at Baptism were John Flour and his wife Anna Mary Flour. John Flour and his wife later appear in Baptisms of Western Pennsylvania. The Flours, sponsors of John Reinsel at Lebanon, first appear in Westmoreland County in March of 1803.

In what is probably the second generation in the colonies, we have Henry Reinsel my earliest confirmed Reinsel ancestor who lived near Lebanon in the late 1790's (John and Anthony were baptized there) and moved to Derry Township, Westmoreland County before 1805. In that year his wife Elizabeth appears as a sponsor for Elizabeth Arnst, 1 year old daughter of Jacob and Margaret Arnst, who was baptized on November 23, 1805. Most likely this Jacob Arnst was really Jacob Arents
a child or grandchild of Jacob and Margaret Arents who were the grandparents of Margaret Arents the wife of John Reinsel.

On April 14 in 1807, Henry and Elizabeth Reinsel bought 222 acres of land from William Montgomery in Derry Township, Westmoreland County for $750 (Vol 8, Page 31, Westmoreland Deeds).

Census records show that this Henry Reintzel was born between 1750 and 1760. His name may have been George Henry
Reinsel. He died in 1841 in Westmoreland County  He married Elizabeth who was born between 1750 and 1760 and died in 1837.

Henry Reintzel Sr. and Henry Reinsel Jr. were subscribers to the log church in Sportsmans Hall in 1810. By 1820, Henry Reinsel Sr. appears to have been living with his son or daughter and their family. Most likely Henry Jr. because they never appeared as separate households in the census as long as Henry Sr. was living.

The 1830 Census, page 169, roll 164, shows Henry Rancil as the head of the following household: 1 male less than  5, 1 male 10 and less than 15, 1 male 40 and less than 50 -- most likely Henry Jr.,  1 male 70 and less than 80 -- most likely Henry Sr., 1 female 20 and less than 30 -- likely Henry Jr's. second wife, Leddy., and 1 female 70 and less than 80 -- likely Elizabeth, Henry Sr's. wife.

The children of Henry Sr. and Elizabeth appear to include a daughter, Rachel, who was born in 1789, according to the Burgoon Genealogy and died on May 15, 1854. She married Adam Kuhn. Rachel Reinzel Kuhn died at the age of 66. Rachel appears to have been a sister of John, Daniel, Anthony, Conrad, Henry and George.



17 Nov 1998   Jim Cyphert <jimcyphert@labyrinth.net>
Many years ago I copied the first 41 pages of a book at the St Vincent Library titled "Illustrated History of St. Vincent Archabby" by Gerard Bridge, O.S.B., Beaty, Pa., St. Vincent Archabby Press, 1922.  (I should have copied all of it.) There are references to Kuhn, Ruffner, Crate, Kret, etc.


Alice Reinsel married Charles Noel
Robert Reinsel             Breinsel@cox.net
This Henry Is the son of the Henry Reinsel born in 1760. All Reinsels, Ransels, Ransils, and Rensels are desended from the Henry Reinsel of 1760.
Descendants of Henry Reinsel
Henry Reinsel  b. 1788 died 1877
1st Wife of [1] Henry Reinsel:
+Elizabeth Dopper m: January 03, 1809
2 Margaret Reinsel b: October 11, 1809
+Samuel Slator
3 Margaret J Slator b: 1849
3 Mary Ann Slator b: 1847
3 Susan Slator b: 1842
3 Elizabeth Ann Slater b: 1840
3 Henry Slator b: 1837
2 James Reinsel b: 1830

1 [1] Henry Reinsel b: 1789 d: in Westmoreland Co.
+2nd wife of Henry reinsel Lydia Huntsberger b: 1808 m: 1836
2 Elizabeth Reinsel b: 1837
2 Catherine Reinsel b: 1839
2 Mary Reinsel b: 1844
2 Lydia Reinsel b: 1847
2 Sylvia Reinsel b: 1846
2 George Reinsel b: 1847 d: 1927
+Anna Carney b: 1852 d: 1924
3 John Ransel b: 1880 d: 1951
+Stella Schandel b: May 01, 1897 d: 1981
4 Edward Ransel b: 1922
+Imelda Bridge b: 1926
4 William Ransel b: 1931
+Frances Zelachoski b: 1937
3 Alice Ransel b: 1882 d: 1958
+Charles Noel b: 1881 d: 1957
4 Charles Noel b: 1916 d: 1990
4 Bernard Noel b: 1918
4 Eugene Noel b: 1920
4 Marie Noel b: 1925
3 Bernard Ransel b: January 20, 1886 d: May 30, 1937
+Elizabeth Schandel b: June 30, 1889 d: July 15, 1975 in Greensburg PA
4 Gertrude Ransel b: 1908 d: 1987
+Alex Hoza b: January 30, 1903 in PA d: January 04, 1995 in Mt Plesant
PA
4 George Ransel b: 1915
+Marie Nichols b: 1932
4 Stella Ransel b: 1913
+James Troy b: April 25, 1909 d: March 1975 in Latrobe PA
4 Alice Ransel b: 1918
+Raymond Dotterway b: 1909
4 Raymond Ransel b: 1921
+Mary Ansel b: 1913
4 James Ransel b: 1910 d: August 1995
+Dorthy Thomas
4 Paul Ransel b: 1924 d: 1990
+Phyllis Canter b: 1928
3 Katherine Ransel b: 1886 d: 1966
+Charles Rushe d: 1970
4 Helen Rushe b: 1916
+Robert Fiscus
4 Eleanor Rushe b: 1919
4 Catherine Rushe b: 1925
4 Edward Rushe b: 1929
3 Anna Ransel b: 1890 d: 1980
+Charles Habrel
4 Karl Habrel b: 1919
4 Dorthy Habrel b: 1921
+Elmer Shepler



20 Jan 1997   Dominic Noel <noel@mcn.org>
Uncle george's Letter:
         Old Crabtree Blacksmith and Wheelwright Shops
                          G. S. NOEL
                          DEALER IN
                 HARDWARE, GAS, OILS  AND PAINT
           Repairs of All Makes of Machinery and Pumps
                       BELL PHONE 4003 R-5

Charles R Noel                  RD 2, Latrobe, Pa.   Dec. 18 1942
Cropus Christe Texas, USA

Dear Grandson,
A few lines to say a new year will soon begin and time rolls on.
In tracing the Noel Family back to George Washington's time
and the day the (...? maybe u.s.o.a ) became a nation.  Adam Noel
and his 5 bros. belonged to Washington's Army.  Adam was an
Officer of Supplies and Transports them days with horses and
mules. Adam Noel was at the surender of Cornwallis at York
Town. His son Joseph Noel was in the 1812 War. After the War
of 1812 was past Joseph Noel, my fathers father, moved from
Maryland to Keck's Burg, Pa. taking a land grant and died about
1842 he is at  St. Vincent's Cemetary.  Adam Noel with Washington
and his son Joesph 1812 War and my Farthers bro. Peter Noel in the
Civil War and Leo Noel World War I and Charles R. Noel in World
War II there are plenty of the original Noel families in this War.
Our ancestors were natives of  Baltimore (..? maybe Md.) mostly
farmers and mechanicks.  This would place you in about the
6 generation.  How time flies. We are all well.  Plenty of snow and
cold weather and the army boys are called by the hundreds to
help trim Hitler and the Japs.
   Be good and dont forget your place and duty to your country
and self.  I will soon start (..?) winters and I am for this (...?)
and Yours Truly       G. S.  Noel    RD2 latrobe,Pa.



 Detwiler/Tetwiler Family   Oct 1999      parrid@webtv.net (peter mooney)
I have two Noels married Into the Detwiler family. John W. Noel lived In Philadelphia In 1935,and later In Williamstown,N.J. I don't know If he died there,yet. His wife,Carrie D. Is buried @ Bakers Summit. William Henry Noel lived In Juniata,and was a blacksmith's helper In the Juniata shops of the Pennsylvania Railroad. Here are his survivors:

widow; Rebecca Detwiler Noel Stobart
son; Glenn N. Noel
1916-1933
buried In Grandview Cemetery,Juniata,Pa.
dau Hazel Noel
sister; Mrs Katherine Glunt  Eldorado,Pa.
sister; Mrs Jane Mcdonald  Hollidaysburg
sister; Mrs Catherine Hufford  Cambria Co.
sister; Mrs Anna Hufford  Cambria Co.
brother; John Noel   Phila.,Pa.
brother; Joseph Noel   Portage,Pa.
brother; Thomas Noel  Duncansville,Pa.

This Info comes from Williams obit In the Altoona Mirror, Monday 16 Jun 1930, p 14.  I don't know If the John In Philly was the same one married to Carrie.  That's about all I have,so far. John W. lived on Somerset St. In Philly,and was an eng.for the Reading Railroad.
-------------
Anthony Tetwiler   Susan Rhodes
b.20 Aug 1810      b. 2 Apr 1817
Franklin Co.,Pa.    d. 26 Nov 1886
d. 19 Jun 1893
Bakers Summit,Pa.
Susan dau of Christian Rhodes
and unknown mother
Anthony and Susan are buried
In Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers
Summit,Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford
Co.,Pa.

son:

Abraham Detwiler  Charlotte Fry
b. 12 Feb 1854      b. 1 Dec 1860
d. Aug 1929          d. 2 Nov 1931
m. 1830
Charlotte dau of Michael Fry and
Susanna Cox
Abraham and Charlotte are buried
In Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers
Summit,Bloomfield Twp,Bedford
Co.,Pa.

children:

1. John Detwiler   Ida Witters
b. Jul 1878           b.
d. Mar 1931         d.
m. 1 Jan 1900
bur. Phila.?

2. Laura Detwiler
b. 12 Feb 1880
d. 11 Feb 1884
bur. Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers
Summit,Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford
Co.,Pa.

3. Mary Detwiler
b. 17 Sep 1882
d. 29 Jan 1884
bur, Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers
Summit,Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford
Co.,Pa.

4. Susanna   Harry Stouffer
b. 21 Jun 1883  Benjamin Stratiff
d.                       Ambrose Sherrick
Anna lived In Pittsburgh

5.Irene B. Detwiler  Albert S. Ott
b. 12 Jul 1884         b. 27 Jun 1872
Woodbury,Pa.       Mechanicsburg,Pa.
d. 8 May 1960        d. May 1948
Roaring Spring,Pa.  Woodbury,Pa.
m. 19 Sep 1903
Albert son of Samuel Ott and
Elizabeth Snotz
Irene and Albert are buried In Dry
Hill Cemetery,Woodbury,Bloomfield
Twp.,Bedford Co.,Pa.

6. William A. Detwiler
b. 24 Nov 1886
d. 5 Sep 1887
bur. Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers
Summit,Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford
Co.,Pa.

7. Helen G. Detwiler  Albert Hetrick
b. 15 Sep 1888          b.
d.                               d.
lived In Unionville,Pa.

8. Carrie D. Detwiler  John W. Noel
b. 1 Oct 1890             b.
d. 5 Nov 1962            d. Mar 1954
Woodbury,NJ
bur. Williamstown,NJ?

9. Rebecca M.   1. William Henry Noel
b. Aug 1892      b. 28 Mar 1880
d. 24 Oct 1961  d. 15 Jun 1930
William son of Samuel Noel and
Elizabeth Ernest
-                     2. John Stobart
-                         b. 26 Feb 1902
-                         Hawk Run,Pa.
-                         d. 22 Oct 1956
-                         Juniata,Pa.
John son of John Stobart and
Phoebe (      )
Rebecca,William,and John are
buried In Grandview Cemetry,
Altoona,Blair Co.,Pa.

10. Franklin Detwiler    Rose (     )
b. Aug 1895
d. 1943
bur. Altoona,Pa.

11. Nettie   Chauncey Kemrer
b. 15 Mar 1896   b. 1889
d. 8 Sep 1958     d. 1967
m. 1 Nov 1913
Chauncey son of Samuel H.
Kemrer and Sarah Womer
Nettie and Chauncey are buried
In Arbogast's Cemetery,Perry
Twp.,Snyder Co.,Pa.

12. Charles A.    Ada Amy Fisher
b. 25 Jun 1898   b. 12 May 1904
Bedford Co.,Pa.  Monroe Twp.,
d. 16 Sep 1972   Bedford Co.,Pa.
Roaring Spring,Pa.
-                          d. 4 Feb 1954
-                         Roaring Spring,Pa.
m. Ada 5 Oct 1920 Cumberland,MD
Ada dau of Oliver S. Fisher and
Mary A. Jay
-                       Elsie Pote Smith
-                       b.23 Mar 1899
-                       Bloomfield Twp.,
-                       Bedford Co.,Pa.
-                       d. 22 Jul 1978
Elsie first married to H. Clifford
Smith who died In 1938
Elsie dau of Jacob Pote and Mary
Appleman
m. Elsie 6 Jun 1956 Winchester,VA
Charles,Ada,and Elsie are buried
In Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers Summit,Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford Co.,Pa.

13. Charlotte (Lottie) Frank H.
b. 1 Jan 1900            Pearson
d. 3 Mar 1987            b. 1896
-                                 d. 27 Apr 1976
Frank son of Harry B. Pearson and
Elizabeth C. Hale
Lottie and Frank are buried In
Somerset Co. Memorial Park Cemetery,Sonerset,Somerset Co, Pa.

14. Minnie M.      Grant C. Fisher
b. 27 Feb 1902   b. 1898
Bakers Summit,  d. 1971
Bedford Co.,Pa.
d. 21 Jul 1990 Akron,
Summit Co.,Ohio
m. 7 Dec 1920 Cumberland,MD
Minnie and Frank are buried In
Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers Summit, Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford Co.,Pa.

15. Sarah E. Detwiler  George Emery
b. 20 Dec 1905
d. 24 Feb 1937
Sarah Is buried In Holsinger Cemetery,Bakers Summit,Bloomfield Twp.,Bedford Co.,Pa.



03 Oct 1999  <noel@mcn.org>
Can anyone add too or correct the story below.

Catherine Kuhn married Andrew Gerstenweiler maybe in Goshenhoppen, Conewago, PA, or the Tanneytown area of Maryland and moved to Westmoreland County, PA maybe between 1797 and 1799. They may have come in a group from Tanneytown. MD including the families of John Kuhn JR & Elizabeth Kuhn the wife of Nicholas Noel both of which moved to Loretto, PA. The Gerstenweiler's lived out  their lives in Westmoreland with the name spelled Casterwiler. I believe Joseph Noel, a nephew of Nick came with this group, meet and married Margaret Griffin the daughter of Patrick Griffin and Margaret
"Molly" O'Brian, who moved from Goshenhoppen between 1787 and 1790.  Joseph and Margaret had their first child in
1800 and lived in Mt Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County near Kecksburg, PA.



Princes Augusta 1736    26 May 1999  freddeppen@juno.com
I am 7th generatiom From Christian Dappen who was 30 years old in 1736 and he came to Philadelphia Pa. Passinger
number 78 On the Samuel Merchant Master Princes Agusta ship on sept. 16th,1736 330 passingers from rotterdam and cows . Colonial Records--Vol. 4, Page171. I am sure it is the same ship I found it on the web on passinger lists and his name is on the list I also have a book counting Kindred book  that has the ship and passinger list. The list has passinger # 101 as Joseph Noel age 56. I really appreciate the response, I was so excited when I recieved the information from Horice ory and you and Dominic. I see on the passinger list there were two Ory's , Francois #98 and Nicolas # 99.


Princes Augusta ship 1736   26 May 1999  Horace Ory <ory001@comcast.net>
Someone earleir posted information that the Princess Augusta was a 220 ton merchant ship with a crew of 16, and carried 8 guns.  It was wrecked off Block Island, RI, Dec. 27-28, 1738, the subject of Whittier's poem, "The Palatine."


Princes Augusta ship 1736   27 May 1999 "Strasbaugh, Wayne (Phila)" <Strasbaugh@ballardspahr.com>
Yes.  Also, it was from Roman's Gate,  County Kent  (possibly Ramsgate today) and was most likely named for Augusta, Princess of Wales, mother of George III.  Augusta married the Prince of Wales in 1736, so it would make sense that the ship would bear her name.


Princes Augusta ship 1736 27 May 1999  <TEDVONMECHOW@prodigy.net>
I have added the following information to what we know of Christian Dappen. If you have any other information about who was on the ship with him Wife? Children? I would be happy to add to my records/

 Christian Teppe (30)   Christian Dappen {Darfen}
Known facts: Christian Deppen: settled in the Mahantonga Valley about the same time period as Peter Trautman.
Known facts: Origin Riggesberg, Switzerland.  Records of Fred Deppen descendant May/1999



Princess Augusta 1736   28 May 1999        freddeppen@juno.com
This is really great for you all to correspond with me ,thank you. I have so much information it is too long to put it on the e-mail, if you have a fax let me know the number and I will fax  it to you , if not give me your address and I will mail it to you. I have the complete passinger list, The petition of Durst Thome who petitioned the council at Philadelphia July  19th 1737 and the petition to the Honorable Charles Read for the goods that were taken from the immigrants and a complete list of the goods,

Christian Dappen came to Philadelphia From Riggesberg Switzarland  on the ship Princess Agusta , Samuel Merchant Master 16th. September 1736, sailing from Rotterdam to Cows, to Philadelphia, the trip took four month and seventeen days from April 28th 1736 to 16th sept.1736, he was 30 years old. I have my genealogy from 1999 back to 1568 in Riggesberg. I also have the names and addresses of 114 kindred in Switzerland. Thanks again for your kindness

Fred Deppen   The E was put in at Philadelphia in 1736



Nicholas Noel b. 1765 16 Jan 1998  <StoroItaly@aol.com>
My name is Peter Everhart.  My great, Great, Great grandmother was Sarah Noel  born in 1809 in Somerset County Pa. daughter of Nicholas Noel born in 1765 in York County Pa. I think his father was Peter Noel born in 1720, however there
is a John Noel who also had a son by the name of Nicholas.   My Nicholas and his wife Mary had their children in Somerset  County Pa. Baptized at Pinehill Lutheran Church.  They then moved their family to Tuscarawas County Ohio where Nicholas Noel had his will probated in 1829.  Many of the other Ohio Noels settled in Scoito County Ohio.


18 Jan 1998    <StoroItaly@aol.com>
 I need to find out moe about my Nicholas Noel. According to the Book by Charles Noel, My Nicholas was born in 1765 and Lived in Somerset County Pa. That is where I find his Children baptizd in the Pinehill Lutheran Church. Nicholas will dated August 14, 1809 named his Children

Mary Deetz
Elizabeth Rambsherger
Sasamiah Boroman
Magdelena Deitz
Christina Ervin
Rebecca Miller
Barbara Reinhart
Son Nicholas Noel
Sarah Everhart  (My ancestor who maried Samuel Dunlap Everhart in 1827 in
Shanesville, Tuscarawas County Ohio),  This is where Nicholas Will was
probated and where he and his Wife Mary are burried.

I do find 2 Nicholas Noels living in Somerset County Pa and having Children at the same time, both members of Pinehill Lutheran Church. The other Nicholas was married to Anna Maria and had Children:
Susaannah b 11-9-1804
Joseph b 7-2-1807
Anna b 8-4-1802
Frederick 6-14-1806

There are Three children b in 1807 that I dont Know where they go
 Maria Daniel and Joseph.
I am sure that My Nicholas is a descendant of this family, But I must find the right connections.



17 Apr 1998  "Peg Kwadrat" <mkwadrat@fallschurch.esys.com>
 Last winter ('97) you posted a query on the Maryland GenWeb page asling about
a Blasius, son of Peter NOEL born in York County, PA in 1762 died maybe in
Frederick or Carroll Co MD in 1831.

There is a strong possibility your Blasius & Peter may be connected to a
family I have begun to search.  Perhaps we could help one another.

I am interested in finding what happened to a woman named Catherine
HOCKENSMITH d/o George.  When George died in 1799 he left lot 121 in
Emmittsburg to his daughter Catherine.  On Jan 1808 Nicholas NOEL and his
wife Catherine sold lot 121 to John NOEL of Adams Co, PA.  (Adams Co was
part of York Co until it was formed in 1800).  A few days later Nicholas
and Catherine NOEL got a mortgage from Peter and John NOEL.

I am working on the theory that John, Nicholas and Peter NOEL were brothers,
(there is another deed of the same time frame which I didn't copy but must
go back and check which mentions the NOELs inheriting from their father's
estate) and that Catherine HOCKENSMITH married Nicholas NOEL.  Since John
NOEL was from Adams Co., I began my search there and found a NOEL family
with a Nicholas and John who seemed likely candidates.  But I've since had
to reject them because there was no brother Peter AND the Nicholas had a wife
named Theresa at the time I was looking for Catherine.  (I couldn't even
"kill" off Theresa and let Catherine be a second wife because she and Nicholas
had children born and baptised both before and after 1808.)

So now I'm back to looking for another NOEL family around the PA/MD border
in the early 1800s.  Your query is especially intriquing because when
Captian Samuel Ogle's Company, which consisted of men from the Frederick and
Emmitsburg area, was called up to serve on 1 May 1813 the roster included
Blazon NOEL and David HOCKENSMITH.  David H. was a first cousin to the
Catherine I am seeking and lived in the Emmittsburg, Taneytown area.

Do you have any other information on your Peter NOEL's family.  Was there a
Nicholas?  If so do you know what happened to he and his wife?



17 Apr 1998  <noel@mcn.org>
My main interest is in Blasius and his children trying to show that Joseph his oldest son was the father of my grandfather Jacob.
The Nicholas that went to Loretto was the son of Peter and not John as  some research will show. A Noel, maybe Nicholas, and a John Feltz did move the preist to Loretto in 1799. Nicholas was on the tax list in 1805. But before this time he is to have lived in Westmoreland County with his wifes siblings, the Kuhn's.  The Noel's were wagoneers by our oral history both during the Revolution and after.  They traveled from Baltimore to Pittsburgh and a John and Balasius lived on the road in Maryland.
The book "Catholic Trails West Volume 2" by Adams and O'Keefe covers these tales. It's about the families of Conewago, Goshenhoppen, Lancaster, Latrobe and Loretto and is very good but with a few mistakes as would be expected.

Now I think that I got the Nicks mixed up, it should look like this: But don't take anything for absolute truth.

Nicholas > Peter > Joseph  born 1764/65 - This one went to Loretto from Tanneytown area via Westmoreland Co.

There were unknown Nicholas Noel's maybe the same person who we find in
        1790 Georges Twp, Fayette Co., PA
        1810 Somerset Co., PA   wife in 1812 was Maria ---
        1820 Tuscarawas Co., Ohio

Nicholas > John > Joseph born 1758
      He moved to Hampshire Co., Va/WVa  before 1790

Nicholas > Andrew > John > Joseph 1780/85
       wife Theresa Miller 1804
       Nicholas's sister Catherine married John Lowstetter in 1801

------------

Yes Blassius II could have be the  Blazon. The 'Blasius' was the latin name given by the priest. The family name may have been Bloss or Blossy. This man went to Loretto after Nicholas Noel and the Kuhn's moved there. He would be a nephew of Nick
and maybe a brother to my Joseph in Westmoreland Co.

It looks like I may be somewhere between insight and confusion.



20 Apr 1998  "Peg Kwadrat" <mkwadrat@fallschurch.esys.com>
I did find a Blasius and Daniel Noel in the Revolutionary War in York Co
and no Noel references (in my material) until the 1790 census.  Both
John and Blasius were in the census in the Emmittsburg/Taneytown area in
1790 and in the direct tax assessment of 1798.  I also saw where Blasius
was an exector for his father-in-law's, Wolgang Speass', estate in Frederick
Co in 1791.

I found no Nicholas Noel's in the Pennsylvania Census in the early 1800's
except for the man in Menallen Twp, Adams Co.  (The one who married
Theresa Miller in 1804.)  But if Blasis's brother, Nicholas was in Loretto
in 1805, he probably isn't the man who was in Frederick Co, MD,  married to a
Catherine, in 1808.

It really looks like I must get back to the Frederick Co records.  I'm not
sure when I can take a day and go "searchin".  I'll be sure to let you know,
whatever I find.  Alas, there are no wonderful tax records for this period
like there are in PA.



13 Jun 1998      wwhiting@glinx.com
I am researching Pierre Joseph Noel,born abt.1793 Paris France.He was a French prisoner  held in Halifax  during the Napoleonic war.Following his release,he lived in various places in Nova Scotia,before settling in Cocagne, New Brunswick.He married Mary Hayes,probably in Tracadie,Nova Scotia.Have the names of their children,Mary,s parents names,and Mary's death date.

Pierre,s 2nd wife was Susan Bellinger.I have more information on this family.I do not have any information on where Pierre was born,other then Paris France,or who his parents were.

Pierre Joseph Noel was catholic,our line as far back as I have researched are all catholic.There are a lot of Joseph's in the family, seems most of the males have the name Joseph as a second name.



16 Oct 1998 "Al Noel" <alguy@sentex.net>
Hi My name is Allan Noel and I'm from Guelph Ontario, Canada. I've been trying to get information on my family history.  All I know is that my grandfather arrived in Canada by boat and landed at Halifax, Nova Scotia, Can.  If you know of any information on Canadian Noel's plaease let me know.


15 Jul 1998     Itsjntash@aol.com
 Im looking for my Great great Grandmother Elizabeth Noelle she married Peter Belmar in Grenada, but I dont know exactly the date.


The McGuire Story   7 Apr 1999      DaveLadely@aol.com
I was wondering if you have anything on the McGuires, besides Lucinda McGuire, wife of William Danforth/Demetrius Hurd, who moved to Iowa?   I understand that some of Lucinda's relatives also moved to Iowa, and one of them, a cousin was supposed to have already arrived in Iowa, near North English or Armah, and encouraged her and William to come to Iowa.

17 Aug 1999    <rmhenry@wpa.net>
Do you remember when I wrote to Fr. Omer last November about the Henry's and Noel's? My first John Henry was born March 7, 1777. He died March 15, 1855. He was married to Mary Magdelina Noel. Well I just heard from St. Vincent Archives today. He said he made a very thorough search of the baptismal records and marriage records according to the dates I gave him and found :
      Joannes Heinrich(Henry) married Maria Zinsdorff on May 7, 1810, at Sportsman's Hall Parish (St. Vincent)
  This is not who I am searching for so do you have any suggestions of where I can start searching?



28 Apr 1999  Phil Lindblom <janology@deseretonline.com>

Film #1,414,861  Westmoreland Co Church Rec  page 113-114

Adam Lang
children:
Andrew 11-21-1796
Eva   2-22-1799
Daniel  7-25-1804
Joseph  2-7-1799
John   6-10-1800
Susanna 1-1-1802
Daniel  3-19-1804
Elizabeth  8-16-1809

John Nicholas Lang and Elizabeth

John 10-16-1805
Elizabeth 6-21-1808
Apollonia  6-20=1810
Margaretta  8-29-1812
 

Also these Henry baptisms

CHILD                           PARENTS                 SPONSOR
George   11-2--1808             George Henry                                    Isaac Guth
                                Maria Guth                              Elizabeth grprnts
Peter   3-26-1792               John Henry/Susanna

Elizabeth  4-9-1796             John/Susanna

John    5-6-1795                Peter Henry and Margaretta

Elizabaeth 10-3-1797            Peter Henry & Margaretta
      died1-29-1798

Adam  1-10-1799         Peter Henry and Magdalena



11 Nov 1998  <rmhenry@westol.com>
I was going through my files and guess what I found?  JOHN
S. HENRY'S will!  It says In the name of God Amen.  I John S. Henry of
Unity Township,Westmoreland County,Penna being in sound mind and
understanding  do hereby publish and declare this to be my last Will and
testament hereby revoking all other wills by any time here to fore made.
And first I direct that my body be decently interred in St. Vincent
Cemetery according to rites and ceremonies of the church and that after
my debt funeral expenses are paid my executor herein after shall pay or
cause to be paid to the pastor of St. Vincent the sum of twenty five
dollars for pius uses for myself and my beloved wife Eliza.  I desire
and direct that my executor shall assume the control and direction of my
estate after my decease and shall hold the same to use of my wife Eliza
during her lifetime if she should survive me or if she should die before
me then after my death my said executor herein after named shall give to
each of the three children of Mrs. Matilda Stader deceased formerly wife
of F. Stader the sum of fifty dollars.  If either or any of these
children should be dead at that time then the share of such deceased
child or children shall go to the survivor of if all should be dead at
that time without legal issue the said bequest of fifty dollars to each
child shall go to and be distributed among my three children namely:
Israel J. Henry, Edward F. Henry and Eliza A. Miller wife of Frank
Miller.  I give devise and bequeath to my son Edward F. Henry my horse
and buggy, and--also the household furniture of which I may die
possessed.  This furniture at this time is in is in the three rooms
which myself and wife occupy in the house with John M. Henry my son.
All the furniture therein being my own absolute property.  The picture
in the parlor of this house belong to my son Elias C. Henry and were
left by him to me to be kept as long as I wanted them and then to be
returned to him.  All the rest, residue and remainder of my estate then
remaindes of my estate then remaining shall be divided among my three
children, their heirs or assigns share and share alike.  to (1") Israel
J. Henry (2) Edward F. Henry (3) Eliza A. Miller.  Lastly I nominate,
constitute and appoint my son Israel J. Henry Executor of this my last
will and testament.  In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand
and seal this twenty ninth day of July an
1886.
John S. Henry             Signed, Sealed, published and declared by the
above named John S. Henry as and for his last Will and testament in the
presence of us who have hereunto subscribed our names at his request as
Witnesses thereto in my presence of the said testator and of each
other.
J.H.Albert
A.K.Gibson            Amd now to Wit. Sept 30, 1890 legally proved and
approval same day recorded and Letters Testy granted to Israel J. Henry
the within named Executor who was duly sworn before me  Testator Died
Sept.22" 1890 at 2.15 oclock
PM                                                             Christ
Cribbs Register


11 Nov 1998 1   <rmhenry@westol.com>
Blanche Nessler married Charles Henry, my husband's grandparents.  Her
parents were Joseph Nessler and Elizabeth Ruffner.  Rose Nessler married
Frank Schmucker.  Bertha Nessler married John Burlas.  I think these are
the parents of Fr. Anthony Burlas.  Anthony has a twin brother, Phil.
Did you know Fr. Anthony?  Norbert Nessler married Marie Carr.  They
lived down around Pittsburgh Zoo.  Leo married Marie McGinnis.  Annie
Nessler.  Robonis Nessler.  Joseph Nessler. Mary Nessler married a Pry.
That's about all I have on the Nessler's.  I think that they lived up
around Mt. View.  Was there a place up around there that was maybe
called Mulberry Hill or something like that?  We also have John Thanner
or Thaner that married Catherine Beckman.  John died Dec.8,1891 and
Catherine died March 25,1899.  I believe they are buried at St.Vincent.
I found some of their children.  Martha(not sure if she is family)b. 10
Feb.1861 and d. 3 Feb.,1863.  Amelia Thanner b.2 Dec. 1859 in Denison,PA
and d. in Latrobe.  She married John M. Henry 9 Jan. 1884.  John and
Amelia are great grandparents.  Thomas Thaner.  Clement Thaner.  John
Thanner married Elizabeth Zink.  Theresa Thanner married Joseph Kloos.
Kate Thanner married John Schrieber.  Philomena Thanner married a
Smith.  John S. Henry b.1816 and died 1893.  Married Eliza E. Noel.  She
died 1889.  Their children are Israel J., Matilda married Frank J.
Slater, Elias C. Eliza Agnes married Frank Miller, John M. married
Amelia and Edward F. b.8 May 1891? d.___ 26,1915.  Not real sure about
these last dates.  When I was checking cemetery his stone was pretty
weather beaten.  If my memory serves me correctly, he was either
studying to be a pharmacist or was one when he got pneumonia and died.
I tried to write you twice before and they bounced.  I'll have to try
and check this next story.  I think that either the Beckman's or
Ruffners came over from Germany with Fr. Wimmer that Wimmerton was named after.


9 Jul 1999  MBuch10124@aol.com
 My name is Malisa. I am searching for relatives of Vincent or Joanne Noel. Vincent Noel is my father. He was born on July 15, 1951. He lived in Chicago for a period of time and then moved to California. He died, I believe in California, in April of 1981. The only other thing I know of my father is that he had a sister named Joanne Noel.

This is the info on the death cert.:

Vincent Curt Noel
DOB: July 15, 1951; age 29
DOD: April 7, 1981
Place of birth: Illinois
father: Percy Noel, born Louisiana
mother: Mary Burgo, b. Illinois
place of death: private residence, 13007 S. Yukon, Hawthorne, CA
usual address: 4339 West 163rd St., Lawndale, CA
(both in LA county)
informant: Ernest J. Noel, brother  Garden Grove, CA 92640
cremation: 4/11/81, Harbor Lawn Memorial Park, 1625 Gisler, Costa Mesa (Orange County)



04 Oct 1999 1   Bob Reinsel      Breinsel@cox.net
In the Goshenhoppen Register Page 144 Baptisims for the year 1790  Gersweiler, Andrew Born march 29, of Philip Gersweiler and his wife Catherine: baptized May 9: sponsors Andrew Schimpfassel and his wife Mary.

On pagh 107  Gerschweiler--Schimpfessl: April [the numeral indistinct], 1774 in the chapel at Reading, during Mass, Philip Gerschweiler to Catherine Schimpfessl, both single.

On page 68 of the Catholic Baptisms in Western Pennsylvania
Andrew Gerstenweiler and Cathrine his wife were Sponsors of Andrew Kuhn of Jacob kuhn and Mary his wife, Born Born
Nov 4 baptized on Dec 11, 1814
Note if this is the Andrew the son of Philip and Catherine above he would have been 24 tears old at the baptism. Most likely
he married Cathrine Kuhn in Westmoreland County.



6 Oct 1999  Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
 This guy came from France and was the Surgeon Major to the American army. I believe he returned; however some peoples oral history links them to him. I have lost the address. Hope they find this.

Found at:     http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/mdbquery.html

If anyone has a     Noel - Lafayette - de Noailles    story or oral history, please get back to me.
This would be about 1782 and Yorktown.
------------------------------------------------------
Journals of the Continental Congress, 1774-1789

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, 1777     Page 705

The Committee on the Treasury reported, that there should be advanced to Mons.
du Coudray, for the use of himself, and the following gentlemen, who came over
with him to America, and for which Mons. du Condray is to be accountable, the
following sums, viz. To Mons. du Condray, 1,000 dollars; Captains le Brun,
Augustin le Brun, Vareigne, Toussard, de Gay, Picard, Loyauté, and Parrison,
each, 250 dollars; Mons. Noel , surgeon major, 300 dollars; lieutenants
Parrissy, Coyeti, Matigny, Bouchard, le Blanc, Nivau, Fonfrede, Pomereuil,
Mattris, Begard, each 200 dollars; ten serjeants, 50 dollars each; the whole
amounting to 5,800 dollars:1

[Note 1: 1 This report, dated August 30, is in the Papers of the Continental
Congress, No. 136, I, folio 401.]

Ordered , That the said sums be paid.

A motion being made for employing the gentlemen who came over with Mons. du
Coudray:

Ordered , That it be referred to the Board of War.

--------------------------
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 12, 1782

Page 326 - That the memorial of Doctor Nicholas Noel be referred to a special
Committee. That the letter of J. R. Stevenson be referred to the Agent of
Marine.2

     [Note 2: 2 This report, in the writing of Thomas McKean, is in the Papers
of the Continental Congress, No. 32, folio 361. The indorsement states that it
was passed on this day. Dr. Noel's memorial is in No. 41, VII, folio 83, and was
referred to Mr. [Ezekiel]
     Cornell, Mr. [Samuel] Osgood and Mr. [Theodorick] Bland.
-------------------------------
THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 1782

Page 119 The Committee of the Week report, That the memorial of D r . Noel lie
on the table, Congress having on the 7 th of Nov r .1777, settled with and
discharged the said memorialist from their service.3

     [Note 3: 3 This report, in the writing of Silas Condict, is in the Papers
of the Continental Congress, No. 32, folio 331. The indorsement states that it
was passed. It is undated. but belongs to this period. The memorial of D r N.
Noel, dated Philadelphia,
March 2, is in No. 41, VII, folio 79.]
-----------------------------
FRIDAY, JUNE 14, 1782

The committee, consisting of Mr. [Ezekiel] Cornell, Mr. [Samuel] Osgood, and Mr.
[Theodorick] Bland, to whom was referred a memorial of Dr. N. Noel , claiming to
have been in the service of the United States until the first of October, 1780,
and soliciting pay, report,

"That upon duly considering the said memorial and the resolutions of the 13th
of  October, the 7 and 14 November, 1777, they are of opinion, that if nothing
further appeared to operate against the claim of the memorialist than what is
contained in the said resolutions, he is precluded from any demands against the
United States. But when the committee consider that the memorialist, upon
receipt of the sums specified in the resolutions of October and November
above-mentioned, considering himself no longer
in the service of the United States by virtue of his commission of surgeon,
dated September, 1777, on which he grounds his claim, immediately repaired to
Boston and accepted an appointment manny
 

Page 330  in the navy, and obtained a warrant dated 1 January, 1778, and when
they consider farther that whatever might have been his intention, the
memorialist's acceptance of the latter appointment, did by virtue of the
resolution of 18 September, 1776, vacate
the former commission and appointment, the committee are clearly of opinion,
that the memorial of Dr. Noel ought to be dismissed."1

     [Note 1: 1 This report. in the writing of a clerk, is in the Papers of the,
Continental Congress, No. 19, IV, folio 513.]

The report being read:     Resolved , That Congress agree to the said report.
-------------------------------

Promotions and Appointments in the Army of the United States.

Thomas Noel , Cadet, to be 2d Lieut. 6th Infantry, 1st July, 1820.
2d Lieut. Thomas Noel , to be 1st Lieut. 16th April, 1823, vice Fields,
deceased.
First Lt. Thomas Noel , to be Captain, 1st May, 1827, vice Shaler, resigned.



Jean NOEL'S6 Oct 1999   JMatuch537@aol.com
I found the following information on Jean NOELs at the LDS site.  Hope it  helps someone.

1500
Jane NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth:ABT 1595 Jersey, Channel Islands

1600
 Jane NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth:ABT 1600 , Channel Islands

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth: 14 Jan 1609 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 14 Jan 1609 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth: 28 Aug 1609 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 28 Aug 1609 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 24 Apr 1613 Of St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 24 Apr 1613 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 15 May 1614 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth:ABT 1615 Of St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Island

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 11 Apr 1616 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 1 Jun 1617 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 23 Jun 1617 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 25 Jun 1617 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth:ABT 1619 Grouville, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 2 Feb 1620 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 2 Feb 1620 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 1622 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth:ABT 1622 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 22 Jul 1638 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 29 Jul 1638 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 17 Apr 1639 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 17 Apr 1639 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth: 18 Jul 1640 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeane NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 18 Jul 1640 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 18 Jul 1640 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 6 Nov 1644 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 7 Jan 1648 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 7 Jan 1648 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 7 Jan 1648ABTst. Martin>, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 6 May 1649 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 6 May 1649 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 12 Jun 1653 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 28 Feb 1657 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 28 Feb 1658 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth:ABT 1673 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 11 Dec 1695 St.martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 30 Jan 1697 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth: 30 Jan 1698 St. Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 30 Jan 1698 St.martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

1700
Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 3 Feb 1705 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Birth:ABT 1706 Of St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOUEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 6 Aug 1715 Saint Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ Rene NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 5 Oct 1718 Westminster, Savoye De Spring Gardens And
Des Grecs French Huguenot, London, England

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 22 Sep 1730 Of St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 12 Apr 1734 Of St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening:ABT 1738 Of St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 8 Feb 1740 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 29 Nov 1741 Of St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 2 Dec 1744 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 24 Dec 1752 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 12 Aug 1753 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands
 

 Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 11 Aug 1756 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 21 Nov 1756 Of St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 26 Jun 1763 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 15 Jul 1764 Saint Martin, Of, Jersey, Channel Island

 Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 3 Sep 1769 Saint Martin, Of, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 27 May 1770 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 10 May 1772 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jeanne NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 24 Sep 1775 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jeanne NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 15 Jul 1781 Saint Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 7 Oct 1781 St Martin>,ABTof, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 30 Nov 1783 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE MARIE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 23 Aug 1789 St Martin>,ABTof, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 11 Mar 1791 Saint Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 22 May 1791 Saint Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 8 Jun 1796 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 31 Dec 1797 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

1800
JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 26 Oct 1800 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 2 Jun 1800 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 26 Apr 1801 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 18 Jul 1802 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 26 Dec 1802 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 23 Oct 1803 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 4 Aug 1805 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 5 Oct 1806 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE ESTHER NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 23 Feb 1806 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 16 Mar 1806 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 13 Apr 1806 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

 JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth: 1807 Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jeanne NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Birth: 1807 Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 14 Jul 1809 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jean_ NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 13 Mar 1811 Saint Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
 

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 22 Aug 1813 St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 30 Apr 1820 Jersey, St Martin Psh, Ci, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 14 Oct 1823 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN PHILIPPE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 26 Apr 1824 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEANNE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 1 Dec 1825 Jersey, St Martin Psh, Ci, Channel Islands

 JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 19 Jan 1826 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JANE NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 21 Jun 1829 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands
 

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 24 Apr 1831 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JEAN NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 10 Mar 1832 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JANE FANNY NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 17 Jun 1832 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

JANE ELIZABETH NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 14 May 1837 St Martin Psh, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Jean_ Elie NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 18 Jun 1837 St. Saviour, Jersey, Channel Islands

Jane Elizabeth NOEL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 13 Feb 1871 St. Saviour, Jersey, Channel Islands



Oct 1998    Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
  Below are marriages in Louisiana. If these people are in your line or you know of them, I would like to hear from you.

Noel, R P                Burch, Betty S         Nov  3, 1842
Noel, Richard S          Burch, Hetty S         Nov 22, 1842
Noel, Therese            Fall, George           Aug 20, 1842



1 Nov 1998     JMatuch537@aol.com
I know we've talked before about Henri NOEL.  I am wondering what parish your LA marriages were in?  And if you know the male parentage and origin.  I now believe Henri NOEL was from Quebec.


01 Nov 1998   Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
Ruth, The records below were sent to me. I am still try to learn from where these Noel's came from and have contacted the Burtch Line.  As to Henri I don't know.     Louisiana
------------------------
Name                                       Spouse                  Marriage date           Parish

Noel, Dominique Jacque           Hoam, Felicie           May 20, 1868           Ascension
Noel, Robert E                   Easton, Lilly           Dec 21, 1897           Avoyelles
Noel, Addie                      Lane, Chas W            Oct 14, 1889           Caddo
Noel, Clyde                      Hearne, T H             Feb 22, 1891              "
Noel, David                      Humphrey, Cora          Jan 29, 1890              "
Noel, Estelle                    Barnes, M M             Jun 26, 1895              "
Noel, James                      Berryman, Hattie        Apr 15, 1880              "
Noel, James                      Mooring, Mary           Dec 25, 1843              "
Noel, Madie                      Binford, D B            Dec 26, 1892              "
Noel, Mary E                     Bush, O M               Jan 4, 1866               "
Noel, R P                        Burch, Betty S          Nov 3, 1842               "
Noel, Richard S                  Burch, Hetty S          Nov 22, 1842              "
Noel, Sidnora                    Lane, David             Jul 22, 1885              "
Noel, Susie                      Ellett, W A             Aug 17, 1874              "
Noel, Virginia                  Cole, R T               Feb 9, 1865               "
Noel, W E Jr                     Akin, Lydia May         Mar 15, 1899              "
Noel, Wm E                       Hoss, T E Miss          Dec 2, 1868               "
Noel, Jules                      Hebert, Rosa            Nov 10, 1856           Iberville
Noel, Lawrence                   Dupont, Leontine        Jan 16, 1895              "
Noel, David                      Buckner, Sarah          Nov 13, 1890           Jefferson
Noel, Evariste                   Braux, Victorine        Apr 16, 1856           Lafourche
Noel, Jules                      Honore, Marguerite      Nov 8, 1873               "
Noel, Annie                      Givens, John            Jan 4, 1897            Orleans
Noel, Armantine Julie            Frederic, Edouard       Feb 6, 1873               "
Noel, Francis                    Coffy, James H          Jan 12, 1874              "
Noel, John A                     Newhouse, Mary          May 2, 1889               "
Noel, Joseph                     Barthelemy, Marie       Dec 9, 1890               "
Noel, Joseph                     Bouchee, Angelie        Jul 17, 1871              "
Noel, Joseph                     Hatch, Josephine        Nov 19, 1873             "
Noel, Joseph L                   Epping, Josephine       May 12, 1898              "
Noel, Leonard J                  Millspaugh, Indiana     May 14, 1881              "
Noel, Marie                      Lacave, Antoine         Oct 4, 1877               "
Noel, Marie Louise               Duvic, Frank Clement    Feb 11, 1892              "
Noel, Mary                       Louis, Patterson        Jun 17, 1880              "
Noel, Mary                       Moore, Sidney           Apr 29, 1897              "
Noel, Mary M                     Johnson, Thomas         Apr 19, 1879              "
Noel, Octave                     Castille, Emma          Oct 1, 1883               "
Noel, Rosalie                    Arnouil, George         Mar 14, 1879              "
Noel, Roselia                    Nicholas, Albert        Feb 27, 1899              "
Noel, Caroline                   Derosin, Firmin         Feb 17, 1870           Pointe Coupee
Noel, Jean Baptiste              ????, Adeline           May 23, 1872              "
Noel, Henry                      Hazel, Delia            Jan 28, 1886           Rapides
Noel, Cecelia                    Johnson, William        Jul 3, 1880           St. Charles
Noel, Charles                    Fanenfelser, Sarah      Jul 26, 1855              "
Noel, Adolphe                    Carter, Margaret        Jun 2, 1881            St. John the Baptist
Noel, Elsie                      Badell, Aliska          Jan 25, 1894              "
Noel, Eugene                     Noble, Mary             Dec 22, 1888              "
Noel, Helen                      Green, Aaron            Feb 15, 1896              "
Noel, Martin                     Lagrange, Josephine     Dec 6, 1900               "
Noel, Alida                      Johnson, William        Sep 16, 1867           St. Landry
Noel, Augustin                   Andrus, Marie           Dec 24, 1887              "
Noel, Dorse                      Nerault, Marie Duverzine Jul 8, 1846              "
Noel, Elie                       Bell, Melite            Feb 9, 1871               "
Noel, Francois                   Marks, Alicia           Jul 16, 1867              "
Noel, Gerand                     Joseph, Marguerite      Dec 12, 1874              "
Noel, Julie                      Jean Louis, Jean Pierre May 8, 1869               "
Noel, Louis                      Berger, Mary E          Dec 3, 1881               "
Noel, Marcel                     Mayer, Eugenie          Sep 30, 1880              "
Noel, Marcial                    Marks, Philomene        Aug 10, 1865              "
Noel, Onezime Jean               Fontenot, Alzina        May 5, 1887               "
Noel, Therese                    Fall, George            Aug 20, 1842              "
Noel, Acalice                    Filo, Zenon             Feb 8, 1899            St. Martin
Noel, Jean Baptiste              Berard, Eliza           Feb 1, 1893               "
Noel, Joseph                     Aubry, Alzire           Nov 25, 1887              "
Noel, Joseph                     Johnson, Elizabeth      Mar 28, 1895              "
Noel, Julien                     Abraham, Clarisse       Jan 21, 1897              "
Noel, Napoleon                   Means, Irma             Jun 23, 1885              "
Noel, Oscar                      Fontenette, Arthemise   Nov 21, 1891              "
Noel, Prescilla                  Monge, Jules            Jan 23, 1900              "
Noel, Clara                      Cadore, Ernest          1897                   West Baton Rouge

Nowell, C C                      Head, Jane A            Feb 8, 1866            Bossier
Nowell, Chas C                   Harris, Prudence        Apr 26, 1851              "
Nowell, Richard                  De Conrieux, Angelina   Feb 14, 1885           Orleans

Newell, Elizabeth                Inge, Emile             Mar 19, 1855           Ascension
Newell, Harriet                  London, Alcide          Feb 1, 1881               "
Newell, Mamie                    Arceneaux, Adolph       Mar 10, 1913           Calcasieu
Newell, Joseph                   Brewer, Caroline        Mar 23, 1847           East Feliciana
Newell, Jno E                    Moody, Lula H           Oct 3, 1864            Franklin
Newell, Aurelia                  Dantin, Louis           Mar 29, 1851           Lafourche
Newell, John F                   Morvant, Marie Denise   Jul 26, 1827              "
Newell, Lelia                    Leblanc, Ernest         May 13, 1897              "
Newell, Lydia                    Narcisse, Evariste      Jan 20, 1875              "
Newell, Neil Joseph              Leblanc, Octavie        Jul 30, 1889              "
Newell, Holden                   Hodge, W H              Feb 1, 1899            Madison
Newell, Louisa                   Crutcher, Lewis         Nov 8, 1875               "
Newell, Charles B                Adams, Jane             Jul 8, 1873            Orleans
Newell, Edward T                 Newell, Annie E         Jan 15, 1878              "
Newell, James                    Lockwood, Annie         Feb 2, 1874               "
Newell, Wilhelmina               Forster, Emile          Feb 18, 1892              "
Newell, Catherine                Hudson, Thomas          Jun 4, 1896            Rapides
Newell, Charles                  Lee, Henrietta          Aug 28, 1869              "
Newell, Ella                     Lee, John               Nov 2, 1901               "
Newell, Harriet                  Morgan, Joe             Mar 30, 1891              "
Newell, Mary                     Adams, Lee              Mar 8, 1869               "
Newell, Kate                     Dickson, W S            Dec 17, 1879           St. Landry
Newell, Robert                   Forman, Sarah Ann       Mar 28, 1856              "
Newell, Sarah E                  Fruge, William A        Sep 12, 1883              "
Newell, Rosa                     Hamilton, Joshua        Feb 27, 1871           St. Mary
Newell, Adele                    Murdock, John           Nov 5, 1892            Tensas
Newell, Elnia                   Moody, E N              Jun 30, 1880              "
Newell, Jake                     Gray, Lou               Jul 18, 1889              "
Newell, Josie G                  Fultz, John D           Jan 22, 1895              "
Newell, Tensora                  Buckner, Lewis          Jun 23, 1874              "
Newell, Thomas M                 Beck, Susan J           Sep 3, 1865               "
Newell, Thomas M                 Gorton, Letitia A       Jan 25, 1860              "
Newell, Thomas                   Eagon, Mary             Mar 13, 1840           West Feliciana
Newell, Guy R                    Leblanc, Marie          Jun 3, 1916            Washington
Newell, Lizzie                   Ducre, Alex             Nov 26, 1917              "
Ross, Jackson                    Noel, Mary              Oct 27, 1882           Ascension
Pittman, Sam                     Noel, Minnie May        Apr 5, 1899            Caddo
Reese, Lettie                    Noel, Willis            Sep 25, 1881              "
Sanders, Emma                    Noel, Jim               Jun 2, 1877               "
Winston, J T                   Noel, Sallie            Jul 16, 1899             "
Rivet, Blaise                    Noel, Marie Madelaine   Mar 30, 1788           Iberville
Washington, Noel                 Noel, Ellen             Oct 19, 1890           Jefferson
Susan, Marie                     Noel, Zenon Chas        Jan 22, 1876           Lafourche
Preston, John                    Noel, Marie             Aug 14, 1875           Orleans
Robertson, Laura Mrs             Noel, Andrew            Aug 1, 1891               "
Robinson, Katie                  Noel, Joseph            Mar 17, 1892              "
Robinson, Lucy                   Noel, Vincent           Apr 26, 1890              "
Vergez, Frank                    Noel, Lydia S           Feb 7, 1882               "
Ohara, A B                       Noel, B A               Dec 2, 1899            Rapides
Oliver, Amanda                   Noel, Valcour           Jun 13, 1881           St. James
Richmond, Philomine              Noel, Joseph            Apr 4, 1882            St. John
theBaptist
Thorton, Philomene               Noel, Sosthene          Feb 1, 1890               "
Pickin, Frozine                  Noel, Charles           Jan 16, 1869           St. Landry
Robin, Brigitte                  Noel, Francois Adam     Dec 23, 1871              "
Stelly, Delphine                 Noel, Jules             Jan 14, 1889              "
Stelly, Julie Michel             Noel, Joseph            Aug 17, 1837              "
Strict, Philomene                Noel, Olivier           Jan 2, 1890               "
Thom, Louis                      Noel, Clarisse          Feb 8, 1872               "
Payne, Joseph                    Noel, Madeleine         Sep 1, 1897            St. Martin
St Pe, Casimer                   Noel, Ophilia           Oct 30, 1893              "
Steen, Nevada                    Nowell, Henry           Apr 30, 1910           Calcasieu
Schawmberg, Henry C              Nowell, Bridget         Jan 12, 1888           Orleans
Whitney, Walter                  Nowell, Lizzie          Dec 4, 1894            St. Bernard
Satoon, Lanier                   Nowell, Elizabeth Bette Aug 18, 1820           St. Helena

Vaughn, Hannsa                   Newell, Geo F           Feb 27, 1873           Claiborne
Wolf, Udolpho                    Newell, S Annette       Sep 6, 1864            Franklin
Tetreau, Francois                Newell, Josephine       Apr 22, 1895           Lafourche
Perkins, Fayette W               Newell, Minerva         Feb 6, 1874            Madison
Ranson, Charles                  Newell, Louisa          Jan 6, 1886               "
Ward, Fannie                     Newell, Alf             Dec 23, 1891              "
Smith, Harriet                   Newell, Chas A          Nov 23, 1878           Rapides
Young, Johanna                   Newell, Chas A          Apr 5, 1882               "
Wales, Julia                     Newell, John            Jun 3, 1876            St. Mary
Williams, Israel                 Newell, Sarah           Apr 22, 1891           Tensas
Young, Bessie C                  Newell, Robert G        Sep 8, 1891               "
Semple, Emma D                   Newell, Henry           Feb 6, 1856            Terrebonne

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I have very little on the Canadians. Below is the addresses of people working on Cananian lines.

   Ed Noel <enoel@kpmg.com>
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   Benoit Bousquet, QC,Canada  benoit.bousquet@bigfoot.com

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   Louis Noel, CT,USA   lnoel180471@aol.com

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   George Collins    gwc3rd@snet.net
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   Nancy Borman, CT, USA  nancy.borman@snet.net

http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/NancyBorman/NOEL/index.htm
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   Edward Jones, Ontario, Canada    eajones@interhop.net

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   Basil Elbe, Riverside, CA      belbe@pe.net
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   Denise Noël, Quebec, Canada:  denise.noel@sympatico.ca
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   Ev Haeber, B.C., Canada  ehaeber@bc.sympatico.ca
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   Allan Charles Noel  Ontario-Nova Scotia   alguy@sentex.net
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  Virginia S.Whiting  Nova Scotia   wwhiting@glinx.com



5 Nov 1998      VFW2615@aol.com
Couldn't remember what sort of information you were looking for but ran up on this in the SW Louisiana Records: Therese Noel married George Fall as recorded at Opelousas Court House marriage record #58, and at St Charles Boromeo Catholic Church in Grand Coteau, LA as recorded in GC Church Records Vol 1, page 142. They had two children : William Fall born 14 Jan 1844 as recorded in GC Church Records Vol 1, page 217 and Marie Louise Fall born 21 Jun 1847 as recorded in GC Church Records Vol 1, page 265.


 2 May 1998    joe wendelken <lizard@usit.net>
I got your Email address from the Internet and notice you were researching Longmeyer - I am researching Longmire - maybe we have common kin?  I realize one is German and the other English - but many census records do not have the correct spelling and perhaps we have something in common.


13 Jun 1999   "John W. Shrum" <jshrum@home.com>
P. Noel had two properties four miles apart listed in the 1867 Atlas of Westmoreland Co. located as follows:

1) Unity Twp. along 9-mile Run, 2.5 mi. northwest of the Unity/Cook Twp. Line.
2) Cook Twp. on same road as #1 above, 1.5 mi. southeast of Unity/Cook Twp Line.

J. Kreitzer had a property in Unity Twp located 1.1 mi. southwest of P. Noel or 1.2 mi. ESE of Lycippus (PO).



13 Jun 1999  "Christopher D. Anthony" <cda@nb.net>
 I am just writing again, to see if you think that our names are linked somewhere.  I have recently found several Critzer's with several spelling of the name in Unity and Loyalhanna Twp in the 1850 census.  One was George Critzer, who was born
in New York and was 65 yeard old.  There are many others younger than he, but there is also a John in 1820 and 1830 in Armstmrong County who would be about the same age.

The one lady wrote me and said there were only one in Westmoreland County in 1810, being that George.

Then I have had several other people send to me tonight, one was a James Creutzer with property in book 2 page 147
He is found as a joiner of property.  I did not know how close to the courhouse you were, and thought is you were, sometime you could check this out and let me know for both of us. is a J. Kreitzer in Unity Twp near a P. Noel in the 1867 Atlas of
Westmoreland County.



23 May 1999 I went to our local Mormon church and sent for  one microfiche on Kratzer.  Copied all pages (very illegible).  Written by the Frank C, same as what the man e-mailed to you.  John Philip Kratzer came on ship Snow Molly in 1737.  Settled in Mt Bethel twp, Northampton Co, Pa, Henry and Conrad, sons, also on same ship and under 16.


20 May 1999    ELCritzer@aol.com
 Records of Mt Bethel Union Church, Northhampton Co., Pa.:
      Maria Kratzer, born Sept. 17, 1813, dau. of Frederick and Susanna Kratzer confirmed Oct. 31, 1813

To All, I have a 50 page manuscript entitled "THE KRATZER (KREITZER) FAMILY"
by Frank L. Crone, dated January 29, 1935, from which the above info comes.
It is a short history, but also contains many church records of births, deaths, marriages, land records, etc. from the period roughly 1737 to 1830, in the Southeastern Pa. area.  I would be willing to photocopy this for anyone interested and mail it to you for $15.00.  It is all on typewritten pages and very legible.  Send your check made out to Ed Critzer to 119 N. Shields Ave., Richmond, Va. 23220 and allow me about two weeks to get it to you, as I am still full-time employed and don't own a Xerox machine.



20 May 1999     Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
To All, I am still looking for a Maria Kreitzer who gave birth to my grandfather, Jacob Noel,  in 1834, near Mt Plesant,
Westmoreland County, PA

This is recorded at St John's Lutheran & Reformed, Mt Pleasant, Westmoreland County, PA  1782-1860

   Heinrich Kreitzer/Kreytzer/Krentzer and Sophia

    Child               DOB                Sponsor                              Date
 Sara Anna      10-12-1819    Margarethe Kreitzer               12-12-1819
 Anna Maria    10-14-1821    Fred'K Stocberg or and Sara   2-03-1822
 Heinrich            7-04-1824    Margarethe Krentzer               7-04-1824
 David              12-29-1825   Wilhelm Frey - Regina             3-27-1826
 Johannes           2-22-            The Mother                            9-21-1828
 Susanna            2-26-1830     The Mother                           5-22-1830
 Maria Jane        9-31-1837     The Mother                         12-03-1837

      John Kreiter & Catherina
David Wilhelm    4-26-1804     David Marschant -Catherina  5-28-1804
John                   8-08-1806                                                 10-12-1806
Susanna            11-10-1808                                                   1-01-1809
Wilheim             1-19-1811                                                      2-26-1811
Samuel Nies        4-26-1813                                                   5-16-1813
Geo Washington  4-26-1813                                                   5-16-1813

Marriages

4-9-1884 Israel Krytzer & Sue Walton both of Lycippus
                     NSPR. Date 4-16-1834.
4-4-1833 Abijah Brewer & Rebecca Kreitzer both of Unity Twp.

1880 Unity Twp Census

Israel Krytzer, 67, carpenter born in PA as were both parents
           with daughter Lizzie, 17 born PA
James Krytzer, 72, farmer born in PA as were both parents
           with daughter Catherine, 36 born PA

1880 Youngstown District, Unity Twp.

Joseph Keytzer, 73,   born in PA as were both parents
and Martha, 77 born in PA, father in MD, mother in PA
    They were mother & father in-laws of maybe the Dunlap family.



15 May 1999     SANETO@aol.com
This is part of a letter sent June 2, 1974 from Morris E. Swartz, Jr. who is deceased now;
a distant cousin. "Now as to Peter Creysher or Kreisher.  He came from Germany with his
parents in 1765 and they settled in Berks County near Reading.  The C and K are
pronounced almost alike and in those days all written records were in
longhand and subject to phonetic spelling.   For instance, Peter's wife,
Susannah Kime or Keim is spelled Kime on the gravestone of Peter, but the
family's right name was Keim.
Peter Creysher entered the Revolutionary service on Mar. 22, 1776 under Capt.
Henry Christ, Jr. (thare are many in this area today who spell the name Crist
and only a few Christ) in Col. Samuel Miles' regiment (page 238 Continental
Army Record)  This Continental Army Record is an official publication and is
in the State Library at the Capitol in Harrisburg).
The Berks County, PA, Historical Sociely in Reading has a book of Berks
County residents who signed the loyalty oath at the outbreak of the war -
those  loyal to the colonies.  On page 35 is the name Cimon Kreisher (notice
Cimon instead of Simon) and Peter Kreisher on page 39 (K not C).
Peter Creysher's gravestone reads as follows:  "In memory of  "Peter Creysher
was born 1754 & departed this life May 4, 1806 aged 52 years & was married to
Susanna Kime & kept house 27 years & was the parents of"    the remainder of
the stone is buried in cement.  Here's the gravestone story.    The old
Silver Run churwas used jointly by the Lutherans and Reformed congregations -
one holding services on one Sunday, the other on the following Sunday.  They
had a common cemetery.
Then came trouble and a split with the one group moving further north a
couple of hundred yards to build a new church and a new more modern cemetery.
   The old  church group had some financial troubles and to help solve them,
they rented the cemetery out to a farmer to use as a field.  The farmer tore
up all but two tomb stones, those two being encased in the trunks of two pine
trees.  The removed stones were stacked neatly against the stone wall fence
around the cemetery.  The cemetery then was farmed.    Finally some irate
relative of a person interred there brought suit and as a result of a court
order, the church had to forbid further farming use of the cemetery.  No one
knew where any grave was so rows of cement were laid, like in the unknown
soldiers' graves at Gettysbury, and the various tombstones were placed
upright in the cement, back to back, with the inscriptions on the outside.
Hence, the names of Peter's children are on that part of the stone buried in
cement.
I never found Susanna's stone there but I assume she went to live with a son
or daughter after becoming a widow.  I am no cartographer but here is a rough
layout of the cemetery at Silver Run, Maryland".

[I don't know how to type what he has drawn].  "On the east side of the
cemetery is Route 140, running from Littlestown in the north to Baltimore in
the south.  I have put a veteran's flag at Peter's stone but it is always
removed for grass cutting and not replaced.   I did take take a picture of
Peter's gravestone which I have on a slide.  If you ever visit the cemetery,
you have to go down one row and back on the other side and then the next
until you find it.  I have forgotten whether the plan of the cemetery I made
is accurate or if his stone is in the second or third row from the fence.  I
am sorry but it is many years since I was there"



22 Apr 1999    "Karen Ansley Krugman" <krugman1@wwnet.com>

  I too am a Kreitzer descendant.  I have photographed many of the Kreitzer headstones - especially those who migrated into the Montgomery County Ohio area.  My grandmother was a Kreitzer.    I would like to see the descendancy of those who are receiving this "list" of sorts. Also, I found Peter Kreitzer listed as a Rev. War soldier, does anyone have any proof of this?  I had no luck finding a pension record on him.    My descendancy is thru:
 Peter
 Thomas
George
Andrew
George
Pauline
 ME!
    Have dates and census records and I would happy to swap with anyone who is interested in doing same!



Apr 1999       Linda L Mott <bikelady@juno.com>
I wish there was a connection with my lone Barbara Kreitzer. Barbara was born in Germany in 1839.  She came to the US in 1849, one would assume in the company of other members of her family.  If your Kreitzers were born in Pennsylvania around 1800, they could be her parents' relatives.  I will keep my eye open for your Kreitzers in my research.


21 Apr 1999   HawnSmith@aol.com
I have Maria Kreitzer b.23 Sept 1801, sister of John.  She was the  daughter of Andrew Kreitzer who was the brother of Harriet Kreitzer.  However, this information is possibly not correct.  Harriet was born about 1808 and was one of the younger children in the family so Andrew had to have been much older for this to work out, or possibly some of the dates are not
correct.  This is based on old family information which has been amazingly correct for the most part, however there have been errors in the dates.  I do not have places of birth, but the family during this period was mainly from PA.  I also have a few more names in Harriet's family.  Does anyone have any more information?


21 Apr 1999   Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
The papers came yesterday, thanks. The Anna Maria would have to have given birth at age 12. However there is a Margarethe who stood for two kids and a Rebecca Kreitzer who married Abijah Brewer on 4-4-1833, so there may have been another family living there. Maria came from somewhere. I also noticed a Krytzer (1884) in Lycipus where Joseph Noel lived.

The Kuhn's (1888) from Carney Station where the son Jacob lived at that time and my father was born (one year old in 1888).

My mother was born when my grandmother was thirteen. Both my father and I married young women at a late age. It seems to run in the family.

A scenario could be that Joseph had a housekeeper. He was about 58 years old which is still young enough. He gave the child to his son Adam who took him with him to Iowa the next year with Joseph's son Peter of five years. The same thing could have happened to Maria Longmeyer,  Peters mother. There is no marriage or death record for either one.

Another line could be,  he was Joseph covering for one of his sons. A question is why did his son George, age 32,  go to South America, was some one after him? I don't think this runs in the family(?). I sure would like to know the real story.



14 Apr 1999    Sue Hall <jhall@blissnet.com>
 Think many Kreitzer's you sent to me are Amish/Mennonites.  Yesterday went to local Mormon church and scanned their Kreitzer file.  One was about Westmoreland but I didn't copy it as a man would not let me use the computer myself,  I only could point and he'd download, a real pain.

What I did find in their index of books and microfilm was the Kreitzer name.  A family, John Peter Stahl m Catherine Kreitzer (1793-1869) about 1812.  She was born in Northampton Co and is a cousin of my Catherine Kratzer (later spelling) m to Henry Weidman, both from Northampton. Catherine Kratzer b 1781 to Anthony Kreitzer (Kratzer) and Elizabeth Rinker.  Trying to find this Catherine's siblings.

About John Peter Stahl and Catherine Kreitzer - had 12 children and lived in Northampton Co, Centre Co, and Indiana Co. PA.  In 1866 moved to Avilla, IN where oldest son lived and died 1869 1868.  You're Kreitzer may be a cousin, etc of this Catherine or my ancestor.  Many children of Henry and Catherine have Kratzer's as baptismal sponsors.  Do you want them?  Like John Peter and Catherine they could have moved to counties west of Northampton.



12 Apr 1999   Linda L Mott <bikelady@juno.com>
I wish I had some information on Maria Kreitzer for you....don't think I do, but here's what I have. Barbara Kreitzer was born May 5, 1839 in Germany (?).  She died April 28, 1914 in Kenyon, Minnesota.  She married Ernest (changed to Charles)
Gatzke September 8, 1960. Barbara came to the US in 1849.....since that would have made her only 10 years old, I would assume she came with other members of her family. Family notes said that she had two brothers and two sisters.  One brother
was the father of Henry Kreitzer. Other notes say Barbara spent from 1849 to 1855 in New York.  She moved to Wisconsin in 1855 and lived there until 1859.  She moved to Faribault, Minnesota in 1860. She is buried on Old Kenyon Cemetary, Kenyon, Minnesota.  Her family supposedly had a winery in Germany.


12 Apr 1999  "Karen Ansley Krugman" <krugman1@wwnet.com>
I have quite a few Kreitzers in my data base.  All of them trace back to a Peter Kreitzer who came here in the early 1700's, spending quite a bit of time in Pennsylvania and then some of his children migrating into Ohio.   I have a Maria Kreitzer, she was born 23 SEP 1801.  Don't know for a fact that she is yours, although she was born in Pennyslvania and is about the right age for childbearing in 1830's. She is the daughter of Andreas "Andrew" Kreitzer and his wife, Catherina.   Sorry I don't know much more about her than what I have here.  I have a few Henry's in my data base but none that went by "Heinrich".


11 Apr 1999 0  "Christopher D. Anthony" <cda@nb.net>
 No.  But there have to be a connection elsewhere.  My starting line is with David Crytzer, born in 1800.  He married Nancy Stitt and they progressed to Kittanning, after living in several places along the way. I am more interested in his parentage.  It sounds like the Crytzer husband could be a brother maybe.  By chance is there a Joel Crytzer. He suddenly appears out of no where and he is not linked with any Crytzer's in our area.  He is buried in Propect Cemetery in Natrona Heights.  He lived in many places, for children are buried in several different cemeteries...

08 Apr 1999 Your page is most interesting.  My ancestor Henry Weidman landed in Phila 1737, and  helped to build roads around Easton.  He was granted land around 1750 in Upper Mt Bethel Twsp., Northampton Co, Pa.

In the DAR book, Adam Emerick (Emery) b 11/11/1728, d aft 1/27/1813 m Catherine Kreitzer.  My great uncle once wrote Henry Weidman m Anna Maria Kreitzer.  I'm not sure if this is the correct surname of Anna Maria.  I'm trying to see if Catherine had any sisters.  Anna Maria did name a daughter Catherine.


26 Apr 1998   "Stan Ingram" <n3wna@tbscc.com>
Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s
Andreas of Peter Kreitzer and Elisabeth, b. June 7, 1779; bapt. June  27, 1779.  Sponsors: Andreas Kreitzer and Anna Maria.
Berks Co Pa vol-4

Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s
Christina Barbara of Michael Kreitzer and Susanna Maria Lutzin, b. April 14, 1781; bapt. April 29, 1781.  Sponsors: Henrich Au and Christina Barbara.



15 Apr 1998   Dominic <noel@mcn.org>
Karen,  I am a total loss with the Kreitzer's. The Maria below would be to early for the one I am looking for.

Maria Magdalena Kreitzer
Born..29 Mar 1780
Bapt..15 May 1780
Father..Johannes Kreitzer
Mother..Sara......???????
Location..Berks Co Pa.
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Andreas Kreitzer
Born..7 Jun 1779
Bapt..27 Jun 1779
Father..Peter Kreitzer
Mother..Elizabeth ..??
Sponsors...Andreas Kreitzer & Anna Maria
Location...Berks Co Pa.



15 Feb 1998  "Stan Ingram" <n3wna@tbscc.com>
1#..Maria Magdalena Kreitzer
Born..29 Mar 1780
Bapt..15 May 1780
Father..Johannes Kreitzer
Mother..Sara......???????
Location..Berks Co Pa. Vol-4
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2#..Andreas Kreitzer
Born..7 Jun 1779
Bapt..27 Jun 1779
Father..Peter Kreitzer
Mother..Elizabeth ..??
Sponsors...Andreas Kreitzer & Anna Maria
Location...Berks Co Pa..Vol 4
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1#..Anna Maria Meyer
Born..12 Mar 1784
Bapt..24 May 1784
Father..Michael Meyer
Mother...???????
Location..Berks Co Pa  Vol-4


28 Jul 1997            SANETO@aol.com
I took your Kreitzer/Critzer from the Maryland data.  We might be seeking the same family!!  Three different spellings are coming down to me Kreisher/Creysher/Keyser. There were a Simon and Peter Kreisher in Rev. War  payroll records.  When two distant relatives joined the S.A.R., the SAR  deemed Simon Peter to be the same man.  My records come down that Simon Peter Kreisher had a farm three miles away from Peter Brown, in Adams County, on the state line, in PA .
Peter's son, John Brown, b. July 26, 1782, m. Simon Peter's daughter, Susanna/Susan Kreisher, b. Jan. 15, 1790.   This area may have bounded back and forth between  MD and PA.  The  Mason/Dixon Line settled it.  I was told to look in
Annapolis for records of the farms as they weren't in Harrisburg.  Simon Peter came to America from Germany, with his parents  ca. 1765.  Simon Peter m. Susanna/ Susan Keim/Kime, a cousin of Brig. Gen. Keim. There was a Sebastian Kreisher, of Berks Co., father of Simon and Peter Kreisher. DAR  records Simon b. May 1743, d. May 4, 1806, m. Susan Keim.
Their children might have been: Kreisher surname Susan b. Jan. 5, 1790  m. John Brown;  Kate (Catharine) m. Jacob Brown; Mary  m. Stough/Strode/Strock; Jacob; Daniel; John, who died at age 10 or 12.